Cher on Kitsch

Cher on Kitsch


(tones) (rewinding tape) (tape button pressed) (slow music) – When did you become Cher, Cher? Are you legally Cher, one word? – Oh, yeah. I’ve been
Cher for a long time. – You sign your checks
Cher and stuff like that? – Yeah, all my papers, my
passport, my driver’s license. I never really felt my maiden name. I never really felt any
last name ever in my life. I was always just Cher. So I just went and petitioned the court. What you have to prove is that you are absolutely recognizable to everyone by that one name. (upbeat music) – I want to ask you a little
bit about diva concert here. Are you comfortable with the phrase diva as applied to you? You think it’s right? – I don’t think it’s anything. I think it’s something
that is a commercial word that people … – The old meaning has sort of connotations of temperamental and
difficult and egotistical. – Well one out of three. (Benjamin chuckles) – Which one is wrong? – The first two. – So egotistical? – Absolutely because I spend so much time having to think about myself
and so I’m really self-centered which doesn’t make me
completely oblivious to things that are happening around me. It just makes me more conscious of myself than is healthy and
that I would like to be. But that’s just the way it is. I don’t read music. I just hear it, but I’m better with lyrics and I have kind of a photographic
memory because of it. I can read something and
pretty much get the feeling of it the first time. It just takes me a little bit longer. I’m pretty intelligent
but I’m really dyslexic and so school was almost
an impossibility for me. – You have such a icon
status in the public mind. People don’t think of
Cher as a mom, generally. What kind of mom are you, were you? – A working mom at best is not very good. I mean I love my kids, but I could’ve been a lot better mom. I think I was kind of strict
and dragged them with me and had great times and bad times. And I’m a cookie-decorating mom. I don’t bake them. I decorate them, you know. (Benjamin chuckles) – Okay. It’s not necessary to smash
your children’s personalities. They’re respectful. They know what’s right and wrong. How they live after that is their choice, and I don’t have a lot of vested interest in making them kowtow to some
strange whims that I have. – You’re very popular
apparently in gay circles, – Yeah. – And, I guess, I don’t know
if there’s a camp element to it or not. – I don’t believe it is. I think that my gay following
is really respectful and if it verges into being camp, camp is a very specifically gay thing. That doesn’t bother me
at all, because I know that my gay followers really
care about me, really love me, have loved me through thick and thin, and a lot of times have
loved me more through thin because that’s the way gay men are. They understand not
being part of the whole. – It’s a strange thing with your career. It sort of goes all over the place. One minute you’re incredibly cool, then you’re not so cool and then you’re not so cool that you’re cool again. Do you just ride this wave? – I don’t know how to do it. I just ride it. – Does it get to you? – Yeah. It’s fun when it’s happening you know. It’s not that I don’t take it seriously, it’s just that I know what it is. It doesn’t mean because it’s happening now that it’s going to happen forever. But it doesn’t mean that it’s not either, so I don’t predict this
kind of [Bleep] you know. I could walk out of here tomorrow and get hit by a truck. It’s just been my life. It’s always been my life. I don’t know that this life makes me happy but it’s the life that I love. – Can you imagine what
the alternate universe would have been had you not gone this way, if you had not met Sonny
in that coffee shop and not become famous? – Yeah I know but you know
what we were walking towards that coffee shop since
the day we were both born. – Destiny? – Yeah. – Do you believe in destiny? – Yeah, I believe in everything. (Benjamin chuckles) – [Benjamin] Would you have been happy if you had not been famous? – No. (slow music) – I’ve Got You Babe is obviously, that must be packed with all sorts of mixed emotions for you, huh? – Not really anything mixed. No, it was just like the beginning, and it was, we were living that song. Sonny wrote that song for me. It was about our life. Since Sonny’s death it’s a lot
more bittersweet, you know, but the truth is, even
though Sonny’s dead, I don’t think of him as dead. I feel somehow closer to him now than I’ve felt in a really long time. We had the just strangest relationship. I mean, he had me in court trying to prove I was an unfit mother, and on the day he lost the case ’cause it was really ridiculous, we walked out and he grabbed
me and kissed me on the lips, and I was really angry with him, you know? And then we ended up
being hysterical laughing. We were so much like kids. You know, we’d spent hundreds
of thousands of dollars, but it was like a joke. It was always like a game with us. It was always like a game. I never could explain it to myself. I just accepted however it went. (tape rewinding) Subtitles by the Amara.org community


46 thoughts on “Cher on Kitsch

  1. Nice. Could you do one on Pete Burns?
    He's not as popular as Cher or the others… but he had his moments and he's a very severe wit.

  2. I'd always thought it was telling when another interviewer asked her what her biggest regret was and she'd said, "Cutting my hair." And the interview here was several years before Chaz. Cher wasn't as good to her child during that, as one would have thought. -lovely work, Patrick, thank you.

  3. I like how he asks her if she would still be happy if she wasn't famous and she just flat out says no. I feel like you have to know yourself pretty well to say that.

  4. This is really cute, and I look forward to more. I could do without the constant music underneath – music to me suggests you're wrapping it up, and five and a half minutes of that is exhausting

  5. Like the look of this one. 1:18 and her answer to the question at 3:15. Good job Blank on Blank, keep them coming!!

  6. she the realest one 2 do it!
    just gna throw some requests: james baldwin, eartha kitt, george takei, alexander mcqueen, octavia butler, yukio mishima , hannah arendt, susan sontag….. LIST GOES ON!

  7. How dare you censor/bleep words from an interview. If you can't take the words she uses, don't watch/publish the interview. Americans are such puritanical hypocrites.

  8. Hmm, interesting how fame itself has changed its nature over the century. I mean, would someone of Cher's temparament have wanted to be famous in today's age of vlogs and snapchat and Kardashians haha!

  9. "I never really felt any last name ever in my life, I was always just Cher. So I just went and petitioned the court. What you have to prove is that you are absolutely recognizable to everyone by that one name." ~ Cher 0:09

  10. I never understood Cher and this didn't help. While I appriciate her level of self-awarness, being egotistical and not really wish to change that is not an admirable quality.

  11. THE MUSIC IS SO ANNOYING AND U CUT IT BEFORE YOU WERE EVEN DONE AND WHAT REALLY URKS ME IS HOW SHE PUTS HER GAY FANS BEFORE EVERYTHING THAT IS SO WRONG I GUESS THAT IS WHY SHE LOST ALL HER STRAIGHT ONES.

  12. When music added after the fact makes it hard to hear what people are saying ON AN INTERVIEW CHANNEL, I think it's safe to say that there's a problem. The balance is off in this one. We should be able to hear every word.

  13. Wow! She is so honest and intelligent about it! That is such an inspiration!
    I also admire so much how she dares to admit that she maybe wasn't such a great mother but in such a loving way! By putting it that way she in my eyes immediately becomes a loving mother as she aims to set her children free by that. It's hard to put into words but it's really deep. She tries to take over some of the burden from them as she seems to realise she has made some mistakes.

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