City of Santa Rosa Council Meeting May 21, 2019

City of Santa Rosa Council Meeting May 21, 2019


PLEASE STAND BY FOR THE SANTA ROSA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO BEGIN. .>> WELCOME ALL TO THE SANTA ROSA CITY COUNCIL MAY 21 COUNCIL MEETING. WE’RE STARTING OFF WITH THE STUDY SESSION AND FOR MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WE WILL WORK WE WILL HAVE THE STUDY SESSION AND RECESS THE STUDY SESSION AND CONTINUE TOMORROW. WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE STUDY SESSION STARTING TOMORROW AFTER WE HEARD THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM THERE WON’T BE PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE AGAIN WE’RE RECESSING THE ITEM AND STAFF WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION AND TELL US WHEN HE IS DONE AND RECESS THE STUDY SESSION AND DEPENDING ON THE TIME WE WILL VEEN FOR THE 4:00 O’CLOCK CITY COUNCIL MEETING.>> MR. MAYOR I’M SORRY DID YU WANT A REPORT OUT FROM CLOSED SESSION?>> IF THAT’S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE OR WAIT UNTIL THE 4:00 O’CLOCK IT’S UP TO YOU.>> ON THE — YEAH, NORMALLY WE WOULD DO IT AT THE 4:00 O’CLOCK BUT IT’S LISTED ON THE AGENDA AS NOW — OH I AM — I’M SORRY. I AM READING IT WRONG COMPLETELY WRONG. I APOLOGIZE.>> JUST TYING TO TEST ME I AM SURE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO START OFF?>> IF YOU’RE BLURRY EYED NOW AND –>> MR. MAYOR PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS.>> [OFF MIC].>> IS IT WORKING?>> AS I MENTIONED ITEM 3.1 PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.Y WE’LL DID THAT TOMORROW AND THAT’S TOMORROW AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON THIS ITEM THE ITEM WON’T BE COMPLETED UNTIL TOMORROW AND WHEN I RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TOMORROW.>> [OFF MIC].>> I APPRECIATE IT. THAT’S THE WAY IT’S GOING TO BE. GO AHEAD CITY MANAGER.>> YES, 3.1, FINANCIAL STABILITY AND REVIEW OF FISCAL YEAR 2019-20 AND OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET AND CPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUDGET. CHUCK MCBRIDE CHIEF CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER LEADING US OFF.>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. SO WE’LL WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE STUDY SESSION TODAY AND TOMORROW FOR THE 19-20 BUDGET. WE’RE KIND OF STARTING AT THE 30,000-FOOT LEVEL TODAY SO WHAT WE’RE GOING TO DO THIS COUNCIL SET GOALS. ONE OF THE TIER ONE GOAL WAS SUSTAINABILITY AND FISCAL STABILITY AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE AREAS AND THEN WE’RE GOING TO MOVE INTO AN ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE. THERE’S A COUPLE OF SLIDES ON THAT THE WAY THE CITY MANAGER PROPOSED TO REORGANIZE THE CITY. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE AND WE’RE PLANNING AND STOPPING STOP AT THAT POINT TONIGHT AND WE WILL TALK TOMORROW ABOUT THE PROPOSED REDUCTIONS AND WE CAME TO THE COUNCIL FOR FTES AND SAVING IN PERSONNEL COST AND WE’LL OPEN THAT UP TOMORROW. NEXT WE WILL MOVE INTO THE BUDGET OVERVIEW. YOU GOT A LOOK AT THAT AT THE WORKSHOP AND HOW THE REVENUES ARE LOOKING AND WE WILL REVISIT THAT TOMORROW MORNING AND THEN MOVE INTO THE GENERAL FUND PROPOSED OVERVIEW, TTES SUMMARY AND OPEN IT UP TO DEPARTMENTS AND WE’RE NARROWED THE SCOPE OF THE DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT ON THE DEPARTMENTS JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS VERY LITTLE ASK FROM THE DEPARTMENTS GIVEN THE CURRENT FINANCIAL SITUATION SO THERE’S A LITTLE LESS TO TALK ABOUT THERE. BUT WE WILL VALUE AT DIRECTORS AND IS NOT MATTER EXPERTS HERE SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS BEYOND THE FINANCES THEY’RE HERE TO ADDRESS THOSE AND END UP WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS AND CITY MANAGER’S COMMENTS. SO AS I MENTIONED STARTING OFF TONIGHT WE’RE STARTING OFF AT THE HIGH LEVEL, FINANCIAL STABILITY, ONE OF THE TIER ONE GOALS AND ONE THINGS WE’RE ATTEMPTING TO DO IN THIS BUDGET IS AOPT A BALANCED BUDGET WITHOUT DIPPING INTO THE RESERVES LIKE WE HAVE LAST YEAR AND THE PREVIOUS YEARS. WE ALSO HAVE SOME THINGS WE WANT TO TALK WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT TO ADDRESS LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE AGREED TO DO WAS LOOK AT OUR GENERAL FUND RESERVES POLICIES AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN DECEMBER WITH RESPECTS TO CHANGES TO THE POLICIES AND AND WE WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUES TONIGHT. WE WANT SET ASIDE FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE SO WE HAVE BIG NEEDS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING FOR SOME TIME SO DIRECTOR JASON NUTT IS GOING TO COME UP AND GIVE APRESENTATION ON INFRASTRUCTURE, THE NEEDS THERE AND THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DISASTER RECOVERY FUNDING AND WE HAVE PROJECTS FROM THE DISASTER STILL NOT ADDRESSED FROM A FUNDING STATUS. WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FUND THEM ALL IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS BUT IT’S A THING TO KEEP YOUR EYE ON WHEN WE DO HAVE SOURCE OF ONE TIME FUNDING AVAILABLE MIGHT BE A PLACE TO PUT THOSE. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE CALPERS UNFUNDED LIABILITY. YOU KNOW IT’S A BIG ISSUE FOR OUR CITY AND EVERY CITY AND AGENCY IN CALIFORNIA. OURS IS APPROACHING $340 MILLION. IT’S A VERY LARGE MEMBER. I THINK WE IDENTIFIED A WAY IN THE INTERIM TO ADDRESS IT AND THEN THEN WE CAN DISCUSS LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS AS FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN FUTURE YEARS. THE RAINY DAY FUND WE WILL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THAT A GENERAL RESERVES AND TABLE THAT DISCUSSION FOR DECEMBER WHEN WE COME BACK. SO FIRST THING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE ZERO FUND RESERVES. THE GOOD NEWS WE’RE FUNDED AT THE POLICY RESERVE LEVEL SO THE COUNCIL SET A POLICY THAT RECOMMENDS THAT WE SET ASIDE 15 TO 17% OF THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES AND RESERVES AND UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE SO THAT IS AVAILABLE CASH: THE REASON FOR THAT YOU HAVE TWO MONTHS TO GET YOU THROUGH A DISASTER AND WE SAW IN THE LAST DISASTER WE NEEDED TO DIP INTO THAT RESERVE. WE LOOK TO THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE ASSOCIATION AD HOW HAVE WAYS TO LOOK AT THE POLICIES AND ONE THING IS THE PREDICTABILITY OF REVENUES. OUR REVENUES WE’RE PROBABLY WELL DIVERSIFIED AND ONE CITY THAT DOESN’T HAVE OVER 50% PROPERTY TAX BUT WE’RE EXPOSED TO SALE TAX AND AS I WILL SHOW NUA FEW SLIDES IS VERY VOLATILE SO THE MORE VOLATILE YOUR REVENUES THE MORE YOU SHOULD PROBABLY BUMP UP THE SIZE OF THAT RESERVE. THE OTHER THING THEY SAY TO CONSIDER IS THE PERCEIVED EXPOSURE TO ONE WAY OUT WYS AND A NICE WAY OF SAYING TO FIRES AND EARTHQUAKES AND WITH THE COMPARISON CITIES SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CITIES HAVE LARGER RESERVE AND PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE EXPERIENCE WITH THE NORTHRIDGE EARTHQUAKE AND DRAINS FROM OTHER FUNDS SO IF YOU’RE SUPPLEMENTING OR SUBSIDIZING OTHER FUNDS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND GENYOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER TO UP THE GENERAL RESERVES AND I THROW IN THE POTENTIAL COST OF BONDS SO IF WE ARE AT SOME POINT THINGS GOING FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AND SECURED BY THE CITY WE COULD HAVE INCREASED COST IF WE DON’T HAVE ADEQUATE RESERVES AND THEN THEY RECOMMEND THAT YOU HAVE WITHIN YOUR POLICY THE PROCESS BY WHICH YOU REPLENISH THE RESERVES AND THE TIMELINE YOU DO THAT AFTER YOU USE THEM. SO JUST SOME COMPARABLE CITIES THAT WE LOOKED AT. THIS IS FROM 2015. MILL VALLEY HAS GOT ABOUT A 15% TARGET THE RESERVE LEVEL AND IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAVE. MISSION VIEJO, A LOT OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CITIES HAVE LARGER RESERVES AND ONE WAY TO WRITE THE POLICY TO HAVE A MINIMUM AND A MAXIMUM SO TAT’S THE WAY THEY HAVE DONE THEIRS AND YORBA LINDA IS AT 50%. HAYWOOD AT 25% AND ARBURN AND — BINGING INTO THE NUMBERS A LOT BIT THEY CAN ACTUALLY BE KIND OF BIFURCATED SO SOME CITIES ACTUALLY SAY WE’RE GOING TO SET ASIDE 30% RESERVE BUT THEY SET ASIDE AMOUNTS FOR DIFFERENT PIECES SO MAY TAKE 50% OF THE RESERVE AND SAY THAT’S FOR CONTINGENCIES SO YOU KNOW FIRE IS WHATEVER, SOMETHING GOES WRONG THAT’S THERE FOR ONE TIME USES AND THEY MAY PUT THE OTHER 50% TOWARDS ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY OR BUDGET RESERVES SO WHEN YOU HIT A BRIGHT DEVIT AND REVENUES ARE DOWN AND THE HIT IN SALE TAX YOU CAN USE THAT S THERE’S MULTIPLE WAYS TO SKIN THIS CAT AND WE WILL COME BACK AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS IN DECEMBER. I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW I TINK WE’RE OKAY. WE’RE ACTUALLY OVER OUR 17% LEVEL AND WE’RE ACTUALLY IN THIS BUDGET CYCLE WE’RE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING TAKING SOME OF THE MONEY WE’RE OVER AND APPLY TO OTHER ONE TIME NEEDS SO HERE’S A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF WHAT YOUR MAJOR REVENUE SOURCES LOOK LIKE SO OCCUPANCY TAX SURPRISINGLY THROUGH THE RECESSION AND THE FIRE DIDN’T DIP AT ALL AND WE EXPLAINED LAST MONTH WHEN WE MET IT WAS A SURPRISE TO US FROM A FORECASTING STANDPOINT BECAUSE WE EXPECTED THAT TO FALL DRAMATICALLY AND LOST 25% OF THE HOTEL ROOMS AND IT DIDN’T FALL AT ALL AND UP TO 100% AND ADRS ROSE AND NO DIP IN THAT SOURCE. YOU SEE THE BLUE LINE AND THAT IS REAL UNSECURED PROPERTY TAX AND IF YOU GO AROUND THE TIME OF THE RECESSION YOU SEE THE PROPERTY TAX DIPPED OFF A LITTLE BIT BUT BECAUSE OF PROPOSITION 13 THE EFFECTS OF AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN GET MITIGATED SO PROPERTY TAXES DON’T FALL OFF THAT MUCH IN A RECESSION AND YOU SEE SALES TAX ON THE TOP. DURING THE RECESSION ABSOLUTELY FELL OFF AND THE SCALING DOESN’T TOTALLY SHOW YOU BUT YOU LOST 20-25% OF THE REVENUE SOURCE THERE AND SALES TAX HAS AUTO SALES AND WHICH ROSE DEPENDS HEAVILY FOR SALE TAX REVENUES AND THOSE CAN BE HIGHLY VOLATILE IN A RECESSION AND WE SAW FALL OFF PRECIPITOUSLY AND IT CAME BACK AND IN THE MEASURE O AND FUNDING SOURCE SO THE GENERAL FUND RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW AND THE IMMEDIATE STEP. IT WILL TAKE US TO A LONGER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POLICY IN DECEMBER BUT I DON’T THINK WE NEED IMMEDIATE ACTION. WE MET TE 15-17% TARGET SO WE’RE OKAY AND LEAVES WITH 6-7 MILLION DOLLARS OF ONE TIME MONIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE WILL TALK B WE CAN USE THE RESERVES FOR OTHER REQUIRE REQUIRES THAT ARE EXCESS. WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE RECOVERY AND RESILIENCY SIDE SO MAYBE PLACES WE CAN USE THE EXCESS RESERVES TO PLUG THE BUDGET FOR 19-20 AND THEN AGAIN WE’RE EXAMINING THE POLICY ONSES TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT THE END OF DECEMBER. ONE OF THE THINGS WE’RE LOOKING AT AND LOOKING TO THE GFOA FOR GUIDANCE AND HOW THEY DEFINE RESERVE AND I DON’T WANT TO TURN THIS INTO A DISCUSSION OF GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING BUT THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF WONKINESS HOW RESERVE I DEFINED SO A LOT OF THE CITIES THAT I SHOWED YOU THAT HAVE 15 TO 50% OF RESERVES THEY KIND OF DEFINE THE RESERVES THE WAY THE GFOA DOES AND WE SAY IT’S THE UNSARKSINED FUND BALANCE AND NOT DESIGNATED FOR ANY USE AT ALL. THE OTHER OTHERS DEFINE THE RESERVE THEY INCLUDE ANYTHING NOT RESTRICTED AND IN THE GENERAL FUND IT’S RESTRICTED FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE AND IT’S LEGALLY RESTRICTED. HOWEVER WE HAVE THINGS LIKE ASSIGNMENTS SO IF YOU HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT WASN’T SPENT ON A CONTRACT AND THAT CONTRACT IS CARRYING OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR WE WILL ASSIGN THAT MONEY TO YOU, AND CAN YOU USE IT IN THE NEXT YEAR. UNDER THE GFOA CRITERIA AND WHAT THE OTHER CITIES USE THEY INCLUDE IT IN THE RESERVE SO THOSE SET ASIDES THEY INCLUDE AS PART OF THE RESERVE WHERE WE DON’T SO WE’RE MUCH MORE CONSERVATIVE OF THE VIEW OF RESERVES AND I AM COMFORTABLE SAYING THEY’RE GOOD AND WE COULD GO INTO THE ASSIGNMENT AND UNASSIGN IT AND WITH THE CASH FLOW AND I WANT TO LOOK HOW WE’RE DEFINING RESERVES AND ALSO ABOUT FOLDING THAT RAINY DAY FUND OR ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY RESERVE IN WITH THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE AND MAKING IT PART OF THAT AND THEN WE WANT TO DEFINE ALLOWABLE USES THESE FUNDS AND WELL WITTEN POLICIES DEFINE WHAT YOU CAN USE IT FR SO IF ONE TIME ONLY OR DIP IN FOR ONGOING THINGS WHEN YOU HAVE REVENUE SHORT FALLS? AND ANOTHER PLACE WE FALL SHORT IN THE CURRENT POLICY AND THE CRITERIA FOR REPLENISHMENT AND THE SPEED WE REPLACE THEM. OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED ROOM BUILT IN DEPENDS HOW BADLY WE DEPLETE THE FUNDS, WHAT THE ECONOMIC REQUIREMENT IS LOOKING AT, WHETHER YOU’RE TRYING TO REPLENISH THEM IN AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN BUT WE SHOULD HAVE CRITERIA FOR THAT?>> CAN WE PAUSE REAL QUICK AND ON THE BULLET POINTS. ANY QUESTIONS?>> THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS PROBABLY COVERED IN THE SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS AND THE CITIES GAVE THEM TIME TO GET TO 50% AND ARE THEY AT 50% NOW OR BUILDING TO THAT?>> IT DEPENDS. USUALLY YOU SET A TARGET DO A RANGE AND IF YOU’RE UNDER THE MINIMUM YOU WANT TO REPLENISH TO THAT IMMEDIATELY SO YOU WILL TAKE BIGGER STEPS TO GET THAT UP TO THE MINIMUM SAY 30% LEVEL AND THEN THE 50% IS USUALLY A TARGET YOU BUILD OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS AND YOU MAY NEVER GET TO IT AND TOTALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CITY AND WHAT THEIR REVENUE SOURCES ARE DOING AND WHAT THEIR RESTRICTIONS ARE SO TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE THE CITY I CAME FROM WE HAD A RESTRICTION HOW MUCH MONEY WE COULD SPEND ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS? SO IF WE SPEND OVER A MILLION DOLLARS WE HAD TO GET VOTER APPROVAL AND WE COULDN’T DO THAT AND THE MONEY ACCUMULATED QUICKER AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT WILL CHANGE THAT HAVE AND THE MINIMUM LEVEL IMMEDIATELY AND A TARGET THAT IS ASPIRATIONAL AND I DON’T SEE ANYTHING WE’RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT THAT WILL BE COVERED IN THE IMMEDIATE TERM. IT’S AT LEAST A TWO STEP PROCESS SO IT MAY TAKE US YEARS TO BUILD UP THE RESERVES IF WE GO HIGHER THAN THE 15-17% AND DON’T HAVE AN E RENT THAT WILL DEPLETE THEM AND SAME THING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND CALPERS AND RESILIENCY. WE CAN TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTIONS BUT NOT HIT HIGHER LEVELS IN A SINGLE YEAR. THAT WILL TAKE TIME.>> THANK YOU.>> MS. COMBS.>> THANK YOU AND I THINK IT IS PAGE SIX, SLIDE SIX. DO THESE PARTICULAR COMPARABLE CITIES BIFURCATE — DO ANY OF THESE — FOR EXAMPLE DOES MISSION VIEJO BIFURCATE THEIRS? CAN THIS INFORMATION BE INCLUDED WHEN THE SLIDE COMES BACK WHETHER THEY BIFURCATE OR NOT? OTHERWISE IF WE’RE APPLYING OUR MORE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH IT LOOKS A LITTLE –>> YEAH,.>> SO ITHINK ALSO THERE’S GOING TO B I THINK WHAT CHUCK IS ALSO INDICATING THAT WE’RE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE POLICIES INTERNALLY AND HOW WE CATEGORIZE THOSE THINGS, SO TO CHUCK’S POINT THERE MAYBE ACTUALLY MORE RESERVE IN PLACE. IT’S HOW WE CATEGORIZE THAT RESERVE SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THIS WAS JUST TO GIVE I THINK A SCATTERSHOT ACROSS THE STATE AND POINT OUT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY THINK IS IMPORTANT IS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CITIES ACTUALLY HAVE DONE MUCH MORE WORK ON CREATING RESERVES THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT AND IT’S PROBABLY AGAIN BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT WE’RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW I BELIEVE I HAD HEARD THAT MALIBU HAD 75% AS A RESERVE, BUT HOW YOU TALK ABOUT RESERVE IS ALMOST AS IMPORTANT WHAT THE RESERVE IS, AND I THINK THERE’S A LOT WE CAN GO THROUGH TO REALLY TALK ABOUT WHERE RESOURCES LIE, HOW WE MANAGE, HOW WE CHECK IN ON THE RESOURCES AND WHAT CONSTITUTES TO YOUR POINT THE RIGHT LEVEL OF RESERVE.>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I A COMPARING AS THEY TERRIBLY SAY APPLES TO APLES IN WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE RESERVE IN THE SAME WAY WE TALK ABOUT SALARY AND BENEFITS THAT WE LOOK AT A PACKAGE BECAUSE THOSE PACKAGES VARY AND IF YOU ONLY LOOK AT DIRECT SALARY OR DIRECT BENEFIT YOU OFTEN DON’T SEE THE BIG PICTURE, SO I’M ASKING WHAT COMES BACK TO US IS A CLEAR APPLES TO APPLES. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE RESERVES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. I THINK THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS A NUMBER OF PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE SAVED MONEY ANTICIPATING SOMETHING I THE FUTURE. THOSE AREN’T INCLUDED IN OUR 15-17% RESERVE HERE SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RESERVES WILL WE ALSO BE BRINGING BACK THE IFORMATION ABOUT ALL THE RESERVES IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS PLEASE?>> YES.>> THAT’S A POLITE QUESTION.>> YES MA’AM SO OUR DISCUSSION RIGHT HERE IS RESTRICTED TO THE GENERAL FUND BUT YEAH WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT OTHER DEPARTMENTS.>> PARTICULARLY IF AY OF THESE OTHER FOLKS’ RESERVES IN SOME WAY ARE REFERENCING OTHER RESERVE FUNDS THEY HAVE.>> I THINK WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF A POLICY. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MR. MCBRIDE IS POINTING TO IS THERE’S ASSUMPTIONS BUILT IN INSTEAD OF SOME CLEAR POLICY DIRECTIVE HOW WE APPROACH THESE PROBLEMS AND THIS IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THE LONG-TERM FINANCE COMMITTEE WILL TAKE UP OVER THE FALL IS BRING CLARITY TO THIS CONVERSATION.>> IT WOULD BE ALSO USEFUL TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY’RE COMPARABLE CITIES TO CTY US AND OPPOSED TO OTHER PLACES?>>I THINK THE TERMS ARE MISPLACE AND A BETTER TERM WOULD BE THE SAMPLING OF CITIES INSTEAD THE COMPARABLES THAT WE USE AROUND THE BAY AREA.>> SOMETIMES FOR MY OWN CONCERN ABOUT RAD MAINTENANCE — ODDLY ENOUGH WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE TALKING MOSTLY ABOUT ROAD MAINTENANCE. NOT WHERE I FOUND MYSELF, BUT I AM KEENLY AWARE THE LONGER WE DON’T MAINTAIN ROADS THE MORE COSTLY IT IS SO AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE BALANCE THAT WE PUT MONEY IN RESERVE VERSUS THAT MONEY ACTUALLY SAVING US MONEY IN THE FUTURE, FOR EXAMPLE MAINTENANCE ISSUES. THANK YOU.>> SEEING NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS PLEASE CONTINUE. THANK YOU.>> SO THE NEXT AREA WE LOOKED AT WAS RECOVERY AND RESILIENCY SO THERE’S A NUMBER OF AREAS WHERE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FUNDING SOURCES SO WE HAVE ONE TIME FUNDS TO PUT ASIDE BEYOND THIS BUDGET CYCLE EVEN THEN THESE ARE PLACES WE WILL LOOK TO FUND SO WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR TREE REMOVAL. TE ESTIMATE WAS $2.5 MILLION OF REMOVAL OF DEAD AND DYING TREES –>> AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT’S CITY OWNED PROPERTY ONLY.>> SAME COMMENT FOR STREET LIGHT REPLACEMENT. WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS IN NEED THERE THAT WE HAVEN’T IDENTIFIED A NEED FOR. WE’RE LOOKING AT FIRE STATION FIVE REBUILD SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE LAND THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT COST SO WE HAD RECEIVED ABOUT $2.8 MILLION IN INSURANCE PROCEEDS FROM THAT FIRE STATION SO WE HAVE THAT ASSIGNED AND CAN USE THAT FOR THE INITIAL PHASE OF THE PROJECT, BUT THE FIRE STATION FIVE REBUILD THAT YOU WILL SEE IN ANOTHER SLIDE COULD BE SUBSTANTIAL AND WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT SO FAR. WE’VE ALSO GOT DISASTER RECOVERY PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROJECTS. THESE ARE WHAT WE’RE RQUESTING FUNDING THROUGH FEMA BUT THEY HAVE A LOCAL MATCH. ALL OF THE CATEGORIES LISTED HERE, BRIDGES AND ROAD AND BUILDINGS AND EQUIPMENT AND RECREATION AND PARKS THEY’RE GNERAL FUND ONLY SO WE DON’T HAVE THE WATERS PORTION AND THAT’S WHY THE NUMBER IS SO MUCH LOWER THAN YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE BUT EVEN ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE WE HAVE $7 MILLION PLUS TO COME UP WITH THE LOCAL MATCH FOR AND AGAIN SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WRESTLE WITHIN THE BUDGET HOW WE DO THAT. TE GOOD NEWS THAT AMOUNT DOESN’T NEED TO BE OBLIGATED IMMEDIATELY. THESE PROJECTS WILL GO OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS AND HAVE SOME TIME TO DEAL WITH THE CASH FLOW ON THOSE. AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE THE FIRE STATION AND ESTIMATES OF $50 MILLION ON THE BERAPID OF THAT AND $2.8 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR THE PROJECT BUT THE REMAINDER IS SOMETHING WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND OR ONE TIME MONIES. WE HAVE EXPLORING WAYS TO GO AFTER FEMA FOR SOME OF THIS MONEY BUT AGAIN THAT HASN’T BEEN DECIDED SO AS OF THIS BUDGET WE DON’T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE’RE GOING TO FUND THAT. WE HAVE ROAD AND SIDEWALK REPAIRS SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED THROUGH FEMA BUT I BELIEVE THAT WAS NOT OBLIGATED BECAUSE THEY DETERMINED THAT THE FIRE PROBABLY WAS NOT THE CAUSE OF A LOT OF THE ROAD AND SIDEWALK REPAIR THAT WE NEED FOR [INAUDIBLE] FUNDING THERE AND WE HAVE HAZARD MITIGATION PROJECTS SO THEY’RE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ASKED FOR FUNDING THROUGH FEMA BUT NOT SO FAR OBLIGATED FOR THE MOST OF PART SO EARLY ALARM SYSTEMS IS ONE OF THE THINGS TALKED ABOUT IN THERE. WE HAVE SAFETY RADIO PROGRAM OF OVER $5 MILLION OF NEED SO SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THE POLICE AND WHAT THEY’RE BRINGING FORWARD IN THIS BUDGET BUT WE STILL HAVE NEED FOR FUNDING THERE AND THE CITY’S SHARE ESTIMATED $2.1 MILLION EVEN IF THAT WAS APPROVED BY FEMA SO UNDER RECOVERY AND RESILIENCY WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF NEED THERE IN THE COMING BUDGET CYCLES TO SET MONEY ASIDE FOR THESE THINGS.>> I WOULD ONLY ADD THAT MANY OF THESE PROJECTS ARE EITHER IN THE DEVELOPMENTAL PHASE OR UNDER APPEAL. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE FORMALLY AT THIS POINT — FOR EXAMPLE ROADS AND SIDEWALK HAVE BEEN DENIED BY FEMA, SO THERE ARE GOING TO B SIGNIFICANT COST CENTERS AROUND THIS. THE TEAM HAS WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SOME RESOURCES THAT FOLKS HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM MAYBE THROUGH DBRIS REMOVAL FUNDS, THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON A PROCESS TO MAYBE HAVE FOLKS TO ACCESS THE FUNDS TO HELP WITH THESE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THESE PROJECTS OFTEN TRAIL AND IT’S ALMOST A DAILY OCCURRENCE IF YOU READ THE NATIONAL MEDIA. FUNDING FOR THESE TRAILS, THE ACTUAL NEEDS IN COMMUNITIES AND WE’RE STARTING TO GET REALLY SOME REAL PINCH POINTS AROUND DELIVERY OF THESE ITEMS FOR THE COMMUNITY ALTHOUGH WE’RE TRYING TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM>>AND THEN WE HAVE SOME I WANT OPERATING EFFECTS FROM RECOVERY AND RESILIENCY SO ONE THING BROUGHT UP WHEN WE GET INTO THE OPERATION BUDGET WITH THE DEPARTMENTS HERE WE WILL HAVE ASKS FROM YOU AND ONE IS FOR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ASKING TO ADD TWO ADDITIONAL FTES. ONE IS A COMMUNITY OUTREACH SPECIALIST AND ONE IS AN ASSISTANT FOR THE DIRECTOR OF EOC AND THEN WE ALSO ARE TRYING TO WRESTLE WITH THIS CONTRACT WITH ERNST & YOUNG THAT EXPIRES THIS MONTH AND WHAT ESSENTIALLY HAS TO HAPPEN THAT THE WORK THEY HAVE BEEN DOING WHICH IS PRETTY VOLUMINOUS HAS TO TRANSFER OVER TO OUR STAFF AND WE’RE TRYING TO WRESTLE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT AND WHAT WE’VE ASKED FOR AND YOU WILL SEE I TOMORROW AND IN THE PLAN WE GAVE UP AN ACCOUNTANT WITH THE PLAN AND ASK THAT PERSON I REINSTATED AND THEN WE CAN ABSORB SOME OF THE WORK FROM THE FIRM TO CITY STAFF>>AND WE’RE BRINGING BACK THE CONTRACT TO ONCE AGAIN EXTEND IT. IT’S INCREDIBLY EXTENSIVE WORK. I HATE TO BE CHANGING THE DEADLINE CONSISTENTLY AND THE NEW DEADLINE IS END OF SEPTEMBER BUT THESE PROJECTS WILL GRIND TO A HALT IF WE DON’T CONTINUE TO FUND THIS. AGAIN WE ESTIMATE THAT A LT OF THE PROJECTS WERE CALCULATING TIME SPENT. WE BELIEVE THAT THE 70-CENTS ON EACH DOLLAR EXPENDITURE AGAINST THESE TYPES OF CONSULTANT SERVICES IS A REASONABLE RATE OF RETURN. IT’S KEPT US MOVING FORWARD BUT ONCE AGAIN WE’RE LIKELY GOING TO HAVE TO EXTEND OUR CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH SOME OF OUR CONSULTANTS. THEY HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL. THEY BRING THE TEAMS TO GET THE PAPERWORK IN ORDER.>> OKAY. QUESTIONS ON THAT LAST SEGMENT. MS. COMBS.>> THANK YOU. I DON’T WANT THIS TO SOUND LIKE IT COMES OUT OF LEFT FIELD BUT IT’S CALLED RECOVERY AND RESILIENCY AND I AM AWARE THAT OUR FIRES HAD A CONSIDERABLE EFFECT ON SETTING BACK OUR CLIMATE ATION GOALS. THE FIRES PUT CARBON IN THE AIR. IS THERE A WAY WITHIN THIS PROCESS TO RECOVER THE OFFSETS FOR THE CARBON THAT WE PUT IN THE AIR?>> WE CAN LOOK MORE CLOSELY. THAT’S BEEN A GENERAL CONVERSATION ABOUT UTILIZING MAYBE POTENTIALLY SOME FUNDING TO HELP ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. I MEAN WHAT WE’RE NOT — WE’RE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE. ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU HEARD ME REPEATEDLY REFER TO SOME STEPS THAT WE’RE TAKING TO TRY TO MOVE THE DISASTER COUNCIL WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND OTHER CITIES TO A MORE FORMAL ENTITY THAT WOULD TAKE ON SOME OF THE PREPAREDNESS ALERTING ISSUES FOR COUNTY WIDE, AND EVACUATION ROUTES COUNTY WIDE AND VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, WHICH I THINK PLAY INTO THAT. I THINK ONE OF THE REAL CHALLENGES IS THAT WHILE THERE ARE MORE DISCRETE AVENUES IN FLOODS AND HURRICANES TO APPLY RESOURCES IN THE MITIGATION REALM AND THAT CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS WE EXPERIENCE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT THE — WE’RE HAVING TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO BUILD THOSE TYPES OF MODELS. I THINK THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER FLEMING SAW SOME OF THAT FIRST HAND WHEN WE WENT TO DC BT IT’S A ITERATIVE PROCESS.>> .>> BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. I THINK THERE ARE THINGS WE’RE TRYING TO RECOVER OUTSIDE OF THIS PROCESS THAT MAY HAVE MORE DIRECT RELATIONSHIP TO THAT BUT WE’RE HAPPY TO INVESTIGATE THAT REQUEST.>> ROAD AND SIDEWALK REPAIR ISN’T GETTING REIMBURSED SO I UNDERSTAND IT’S A REACH TO ASK FOR AIR AND CLIMATE RECOVERY REPAIR FUNDS BUT JUST THOUGHT WE SHOULD HAVE IT IN OUR LIST. THANKS.>> JEFF I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE TREE REMOVAL. I HEARD THE CITY MANAGER SAID ON CITY OWNED AND IS CITY OWNED AND RIGHT-OF-WAY SYNONYMOUS TURNS.>> RIGHT-OF-WAY IS INCLUDED IN THAT YES.>> SO THAT’S INCLUSIVE AND I SAW FIGURES OF 700 TEES FOR THE REMOVAL? IS THAT ACCURATE AND 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE REMOVAL OF 700 TREES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY?>> GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR SCHWEDHELM, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. JASON NUTT DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE OPENED BD IT IS ON THE TREE REMOVAL CONTRACT. & WE’RE ANTICIPATING ON THE CONTRACT TO $250,000 TO DO REMOVAL OF THE TREES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE 2.5 MILLION WAS AN ESTIMATE. OUR BID CAME IN SUBSTANTIALLY UNDER OUR ESTIMATE BUT THE $2.5 MILLION INCLUDES NOT JUST THE ROAD TREES BUT THOSE ON WATER PROPERTY, MAYBE ON PARKS PROPERTIES, OTHER OPEN SPACES AND RIGHT-OF-WAYS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PLANTER STRIP SO THAT’S WHY THAT NUMBER LOOKS LARGER THAN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.>> OKAY. IS THAT 2.5 MILLION INCLUDE STUMP REMOVAL?>> YES, AT THIS POINT WE INCORPORATED ALL OF THE ITEMS. THEY’RE EACH ACCOUNTED FOR INDEPENDENTLY IN CASE WE RUN INTO ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS WITH FEMA.>> GREAT. THANK YOU.>> JUST FOR A POINT OF EDUCATION FEMA DOES NOT PAY FOR — THE REASON THE QUESTION WAS ASKED I BELIEVE WAS THAT FEMA DOESN’T TRADITIONALLY PAY FOR ROOT BALL REMOVES AND THEY’RE CONSIDERED NOT A HAZARD. THE CITY STAFF HAS SPENT LONG HOURS AND SEEN EVIDENCE THIS IS ACTUALLY COULD LEAD TO ADDITIONAL FIRE FUEL WITH SOME OF THE CREATION OF SOME OF THE MICRO ENVIRONMENTS THAT WE’RE SEEING THERE BUT THIS IS A LONGER CONVERSATION BUT I THINK THAT IS WHAT IS SPURRING THE MAYOR’S QUESTION ON THIS.>> ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT TOPIC IS CALPERS AND ONE AGAIN I THINK THAT IS ONE OF OUR PROBABLY MOST MAJOR PROBLEMS BUT ONE I THINK WE HAVE GOOD SOLUTIONS TO EVEN IN THE SHORT TERM SO JUST AS A KIND OF A WAY OF BACKGROUND HERE WE HAVE A COUPLE COMPONENTS TO OUR PENSIONS, SO WE’VE GOT THE NORMAL COST AND THE COST FOR ADDITIONAL YEAR OF SERVICE FOR AN EMPLOYEE AND IF EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT PERS MAKES THE RETURN AND THE MODELING HOLDING AND IF THAT DOESN’T HAPPEN LIKE WE HAVE A LOSS IN THE FUND AND THEY DON’T MEET THE ANNUAL INVESTMENT RETURNS THEY WILL BREAK THAT OFF AND AMORTIZE THE COST AND IF WE HAVE A LOSS IN A SINGLE YEAR IT’S SPREAD TO 20 YEARS AND THAT’S ADDED TO THE COST AND THE AMORTIZED COST IS THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY AND IN THE CITY IT’S $330 MILLION BETWEEN THE PANS AND IF YOU ADD THE TWO ANNUAL COMPONENTS TOGETHER YOU GET THE ANNUAL REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION SO THE CONTRIBUTION FOR THE CITY RIGHT NOW. WE PAY $35 MILLION TO PERS AND ABOUT $15 MILLION OF THAT IS IN THE NORMAL COST AND THEN THE REMAINDER OR ALMOST $20 MILLION IS IN THE AMORTIZED COST SO THAT’S SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CONCERNING TO US ACCIDENT ACCIDENT, AND THE NORMAL COST RANGE FROM MISCELLANEOUS TO FIRE TO POLICE.>> .>> RANGE FROM 11 TO 22% AND THE AMORTIZEDDIZED COST RANGE ALSO AND THE AMORTIZED COST HAS OUR ATTENTION. WITH BACKGROUND OF WHAT CALPERS HAS DONE AND TRYING TO FIX THE SYSTEM AND AFTER THE RECESSION THEY LOST 25% OF THE ASSETS IN THE PLAN AND REALIZED THEY HAD A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE MATHEMATICALLY IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND TO COME BACK AFTER THAT YOU NEED 50% AND HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF MATH GETS DIFFICULT SO THEY IMPLEMENTED AB 340, DEBORAH, PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENT — PEPRA. PUBLIC EMPLOYEES REFORM ACT.>>>>AND CAPPED THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT SO FOR MISCELLANEOUS BENEFITS IT’S 2% AT 62 AND NEW STATE WIDE EMPLOYEES AND PUT A CAP ON THE SAFETY ALSO AND I THINK THAT WAS 2.7% AT 57 OPPOSED TO WHAT THE CITY HAS NOW 3% AT 50 SO THOSE FORMULAS CAME DOWN QUITE A BIT AND REDUCED THE BENEFIT. THEY GOT RID OF THE ABILITY TO BUY MORE AIR TIME WHICH WAS ALLOWABLE UNDER THE CLASSIC PLANS. THEY ELIMINATED THAT AND THEY CHANGED THE WAY THEY DETERMINE YOUR FINAL PAY AND USED TO BE BASED ON THE HIGHEST YEAR IN PERS WHICH LEAD TO SOME CASES SPIKING WITHIN THE PLAN. SOME EMPLOYEES WOULD GET THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THROWN INTO A HIGHER POSITION AND SPIKE THE FINAL FORMULA SO PERS CHANGED THAT AND NOW THEY USE THE AVERAGE OF YOUR FINAL THREE YEARS, AND THEN IN THAT SAME YEAR AGAIN WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT FUNDED STATUSES WITHIN THE PLAN STATE WIDE THEY WERE WELL UNDER 70%. THEY REALIZED THAT WAS UNRECOVERABLE POSITION SO WHAT THEY DID WAS RAMP UP EVERYBODY’S ARCS AND THAT LEAD TO AN INCREASE OF 30 TO 50% DEDEPENDING ON THE AGENCY IN CALIFORNIA AND BIG INCREASES IN THE ANNUAL CONTRIBUTIONS AND IF YOU REMEMBER IN 16-17 THEY VOTED TO REDUCE THE DISAPPOINT RATE — DISCOUNT RATE AND WE’RE IN THE SECOND YEAR GOING INTO THE 19-20 BUDGET PSYCHE TAKING IT DOWN THREE YEARS.>> .>> TAKING IT DOWN THREE YEARS IN A ROW AND TAKE IT DOWN THAT INCREASES THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY BY $20 MILLION SO YOU START TO REALLY HAVE EFFECTS ON THESE FUNDS EVEN WITH THE SMALL DECREASES AND WE DON’T THINK THAT PERS IS DONE YET. I DON’T THINK THAT 7% IS THE TARGET. I THINK IN FUTURE YEARS THEY WILL LOOK TO GO LOWER.>> JUST TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE ON THAT THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE FLOATING AROUND JUST TWO YEARS AGO WERE IN THE 6.25 TO 6.5 RANGE SO THAT’S A LOT OF MONEY AT THAT POINT THAT THE CITY WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR.>> SO HERE THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF ALL THE THREE DIFFERENT PENSION PLANS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY AND THIS IS CITY WIDE. THIS ISN’T RESTRICTED JUST TO THE GENERAL FUND AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE INCREASES ARE DOING THERE AND THE EFFECT AND PERCENTAGE STARTING 19-20 AND GO UP BY 13% AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER YEARS LISTED HERE AND THEN IT FLATTENS OUT AS WE GET PAST THAT RAMP UP PERIOD AND FLATTENS OUT AT 5 PERCENT. THAT SOUNDS LIKE GOOD NEWS BUT PERS HAVE A RISK MITIGATION POLICY IN PLACE SO IF THEY HAVE YEARS THEY DO PARTICULARLY WELL THEY WILL LOWER THE DISCOUNT RATE MORE AND I ANTICIPATE ALTHOUGH WE DON’T HAVE IT BUILT IN HERE BECAUSE IT’S A PERS EVALUATION REPORTS I ANTICIPATE IN 23-24 AND 24-25 WE WILL SEE A BIGGER INCREASES THAN 5 PERCENT AND IF WE THROW A LINE OVER ALL THOSE YEARS FROM 20-25 THAT’S A 56% INCREASE JUST IN THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY ANNUAL COST THAT YOU HAVE, NOT THE NORMAL COST, JUST THAT PORTION, SO WE WANT TO LOOK AT ANY WAYS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE US TO TO START ATTACKING THAT BECAUSE THAT’S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DRIVER WITHIN TE BENEFIT PORTION O OUR COMPENSATION. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY SO YOU CAN SEE IF YOU LOOK BACK TO FISCAL YEAR ZERO SIX-ZERO SEVEN WE WERE SUPER FUNDED AND FUNDED AT 10 8% AND THE BLUE BAR IS WHAT THE ACTUAL UNFUNDED LIABILITY WAS AND NEGATIVE WHICH MEANS WE HAD AN ASSET AND OVER THE YEARS ESPECIALLY WITH THE RECESSION HIT YOU CAN SEE THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY WENT THROUGH THE ROOF UP TO $265 MILLION AND FUNDED — [INAUDIBLE] DOWN TO 64% AND THE FUNDED STATUS IMPROVED OVERA NUMBER OF YEARS WE HAVE 15-16 ON THE CHART AND UP TO 70% BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU HAVE YEARS OF LOSSES BETWEEN THE YEARS O WHERE THEY CHANGED THAT DISCOUNT RATE WE’VE HAD EFFECTS ON THE PLAN WHERE OUR FUNDED STATUS IS ACTUALLY FALLEN AND THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY CONTINUES TO GROW AND THAT IS SOMETHING NOT ONLY CONCERNING TO US IN SNTA ROSA BUT SOMETHING THAT HAS PER’S ATTENTION AND THEY’RE SEING THE SAME EXPERIENCE STATE WIDE AND I WAS AT A CONFERENCE SOME MONTHS AGO PUT ON BY PERS AND HAD JOHN BARTEL WITH AND ACTUARY AND DID A LOT OF WORK FOR SANTA ROSA AND CALIFORNIA CITIES AND KIND OF THE GURU IN THE AREA AND CITES THAT THE LIABILITY HAS BEEN GROWING HISTORICALLY 8% A YEAR AND EVEN IF YOU’RE NOT A FINANCE PROFESSIONAL IF YOU HAVE A LIABILITY GROWING 8% AND INVESTMENT RETURN O 7% YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. YOU HAVE A LONG-TERM PROBLEM THERE SO THIS IS PART OF THE THOUGHT IS CAUSING CALIPERS TO REALLY, REALLY START TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.>> .>> THERE ARE PENSION SOLUTIONS. WE IT PMN COME IN I THINK IN 2014 AND THEY KIND OF LOOKED AT THE CITY FINANCIALLY AND THEY MADE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE’RE TALKING TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT. THERE ARE NO SILVER BULLET SOLUTIONS. THEY’RE BASIC FINANCIAL THINGS THAT WE CAN CAN DO TO GET BACK INTO A SUSTAINABLE MODEL AND WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED WAS SET ASIDE 3% OF TE PAYROLL INTO A STABILIZATION FUND AND YOU CAN DO ONE OF SEVERAL THINGS. I DON’T KNOW IF ANYONE SPOKE ABOUT SECTION 115 TRUST. THAT’S ONE OF THE AVENUES YOU CAN GO AND WHAT STABILIZATION FUNDS ARE TRYING TO DO IS THEY’RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT HIGH VOLATILITY THAT YOU GET IN THE ANNUAL PAYMENT BECAUSE LIKE I SAID NOW IF YOU HAVE A LOSS IN A CERTAIN YEAR THAT LOSS IS GOING TO IMMEDIATELY AFFECT YOUR ANNUAL REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION. THE WAY PERS USED TO DO THEY HAD A SMOOTHING MODEL SO AS LONG AS YOU DIDN’T LOSE A CERTAIN AMOUNT IT DIDN’T AFFECT YOU AND NOW AFFECTS YOU EVERY YAR AND EVEN TO THE POSITIVE AND A LOT OF CITIES ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE VOLATILITY AND CEATING STABILIZATION FUNDS AND AGAIN THIS IS PROBABLY A LONGER TERM THING WE CAN. DO I PARTICULARLY LIKE THE SECTION 115 TRUST BECAUSE THEY’RE IRREVOCABLE. CITIES LIKE THESE BECAUSE YOU CAN INVEST IN EQUITIES AD WHETHER YOU GET HIGHER RETURNS. THE OTHER WAY IS SET ASIDE CITY FUNDS AND ASSIGN THESE WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND AND SY THIS MONEY IS SET ASIDE WHEN WE HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN THE ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION AND DIP INTO THE FUND AND STABILIZE THAT. HOWEVER, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A MORE IMMEDIATE WAY WE CAN ADDRESS THIS UNFUNDED LIABILITY, SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE COLLECT FROM ALL TE DEPARTMENTS 4% AND HAVE THE OUTSTANDING PENSION OBLIGATION BOND WE HAVE FROM YEARS AGO. THERE’S ACTUALLY TWO OF THEM AND WHAT WAS SET UP IS THE REIMBURSEMENT THAT DEPARTMENTS ARE PAYING FOR THE PENSION OBLIGATION BOND SO OVER THE YEARS A NUMBER OF THINGS HAPPENED. ONE WAS A VARIABLE RATE BOND. RATES BECAME — THEY MOVED ADVANTAGEOUSLY FOR US SO THE COST OF THE BONDS ACTUALLY WENT DOWN A BIT SO W ACTUALLY WOUND UP WITH A LITTLE IN THERE AND AT THIS TIME W HAVE A BALANCE OF 4.$2 MILLION AND YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THE PENSION OBLIGATION BOND AND THAT’S WHERE THE MONEY CAME FROM.>> .>> SO AN ANNUAL SURPLUS IS AROUND $700,000 SO THAT GIVES US A LOT MONEY TO GO I AND ATTACK THIS UNFUNDED LIABILITY. NOW I FULLY REALIZE THAT TALKING $338 MILLION WITH $4 MILLION IS KIND OF HOLDING BACK THE OCEAN WITH A SPOON BUT WE CAN GET SOME PRETTY GOOD SAVINGS OUT OF THIS SO WE WOULD LIKE TO USE THAT MONEY AND PAY DOWN THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY. NOW, HERE’S THE WAY THAT IT BREAKS OUT WITH THE WAY WE COLLECTED THE 4.$2 MILLION. 65% CAME FROM MISCELLANEOUS. $840,000 CAME FROM THE POLICE PENSION FUND AND 25% FROM FIRE AND AGAIN WE BROKE IT DOWN BASED ON THE BUDGETED PAYROLLS ARE SO IN THE SENSE OF EQUITY WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS MONEY INTO THE PLANS AT THE RATE THAT THE DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE PLANS OR THEIR DEPARTMENTS HAVE ACTUALLY PAID INTO THIS FUND SO THEN WE WORK WITH PERS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THIS, SO PREVIOUSLY WHEN I HAVE DONE THIS WE OFTEN WENT INTO A SINGLE PLAN, CHOOSE A SINGLE ONE OF THE AMORTIZATION LINES SO IF YOU HAVE A YEAR WITH A LOSS AND THAT WAS AMORTIZEDDIZED OVER 20 YEARS MAKE YOU WOULD KNOCK OUT THE ONE LINE AND NOT WORRY WHETHER IT WAS MISCELLANEOUS, FIRE, POLICE AND ATTACK IT LIKE WE’RE IN THE SAME BOAT. THAT’S NOT WHAT WE DID HERE. WE STUCK TO THE ALLOCATIONS OUT TO THE DEPARTMENTS AND USED THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE COLLECTED IN THE DEPARTMENTS TO GO AFTER THE AMORTIZATION LINES WITHIN THE INDEPENDENT PLAN SO WE PUT 2.$7 MILLION INTO MISCELLANEOUS. WE PUT $630,000 INTO FIRE AND EIGHT $40,000 INTO THE POLICE FUND.>>>>AND WE CHOOSE DIFFERENT AMORTIZATION LNES. YOU CAN SEE THE YEAR THEY BEGAN. THEY VARY DEPENDING WHAT THEY WERE AND WE ATTACKED LINES THAT WOULD GET THE SAVINGS AND MAYBE NOT LONG-TERM BUT ANNUAL SAVINGS AND GET THE SAVINGS IN THE FIRST YEAR. NOW WE HVE SOMETHING TO DO THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR SO IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL THAT WE COLLECTED FOR THE PENSION OBLIGATION BOND, THE DELTA OF WHAT WE COLLECT AND PAID IN SUBJECT SERVICE AND THE SAVINGS IN THE FIRST YEAR NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING TO DO NEXT YEAR.>> .>> WE CAN CONTINUE DOING IT. & IT WILL TAKE TIME BUT OVER TIME YOU’RE GETTING ADDITIONAL SAVINGS AND PLOW THAT MONEY BACK INTO PERS AND BRING DOWN THE ANNUAL COST OF PERS AND THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY AND ON THE FAR RIGHT IS THE TOTAL SAVINGS SO IF WE INVEST 4.2 MILLION AND AND THE DISCRETIONARY PAYMENT IT SAVES $6 MILLION IN INTEREST OVER TIME AND WE GET THE LONG-TERM SAVINGS AND I AM INTERESTED IN THE FIRST YEAR SAVINGS AND IT GROWS OVER TIMES BECAUSE PERS BUILDS A ESCALATOR INTO THE AMORTIZATION AND NOT STRAIGHT LINE LIKE YOUR MORTGAGE SO OUR PROPOSALS TO DO THAT AND GET THAT INITIAL SAVINGS AND AGAIN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH PERS OR WITH THE COUNCIL IN EVERY COMING BUDGET CYCLE WHERE WE ADDRESS WHERE WE’RE AT WITH ANY EXCESS FUNDS WE V ANY SAVINGS WE HAVE FROM PERS AND THEN LOOK AT WHAT TO PLOW THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY AND OVER TIME WE WILL BRING THAT COST DOWN.>> CHUCK — [OFF MIC].>> SO AGAIN BACK TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY WANTED TO ESTABLISH A FUND FOR VOLATILITY, TARGETING 3% OF PAYROLL. I’M NOT SURE HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT RATIONALE FOR THE PAYROLL BUT IT’S A GOOD PLACE TO START. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER. THEY THOUGHT ABOUT PHASING THIS OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS SO THEY DIDN’T THINK WE WOULD DO IT AT ONCE AND START WITH 1% AND BUILD OUR WAY UP TO 3% AND THE IDEA IS ONCE YOU GOT TO 3% THAT’S NOT THE END. AT THAT POINT WE WILL REEVALUATE AND HOW WE’RE DOING ON THE VOLATILITY SIDE AND IF WE NEED TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO THAT, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE PUT THE 4.2 MILLION DOLLARS INTO PERS. I HAVE MAKE THE ELECTION TO DO THIS — OR THE CITY HAS TO MAKE THE ELECTION TO DO THIS BY JUNE 30 IF WE CAN IN ADVANCE OF THAT DATE. WE HAVE A ADOPTION DATE SO THIS IS PRETTY TIGHT BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND THEN WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER FUTURE ACTIONS AND THAT’S YOU KNOW AGAIN WHAT WE DO WITH THE STABILITY RESERVE. IT’S HARD TO TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW WHEN DURING THE CYCLE I WILL TALKING ABOUT HOW TO PLUG IT AND IT’S A CHALLENGE AND HARD TO TALK ABOUT THE LONG RANGE THINGS BUT DOESN’T REVENT US PUTTING A POLICY IN PLACE INDICATING WHERE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO IN THE LONG RUN AND THE RECOMMENDATION AND IF WE WANT TO A PAYROLL STABILIZATION FUND AND THE REDUCTIONS THE PLAN THAT I AM PROPOSED TONIGHT COULD BE PART OF THE COUNCIL POLICY IF YOU WANTED THAT IN A YEAR THAT YOU HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EXCESS YOU MAY WANT TO PUT THAT BACK INTO THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE WE’RE DOING NOW AND JUST DISCRETIONARY AND WE COME TO YOU AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE.>> MR. VICE MAYOR QUESTIONS?>> THANK YOU. SO IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO PAGE 24. JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY THAT 6.1 6 MILLION FOR TOTAL SAVINGS IS THAT — DOES THAT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE INFUSION OF THE 4.2 MILLION OR IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL 6.16 MILLION IN SAVINGS?>> THAT MEANS YOU SPENT 4.TWO TO GET THAT MUCH BENEFIT SO YOU NET THOSE TWO.>> OKAY. I WAS HOPING FOR THAT CLARITY. THANK YOU.>> MS. COMBS.>> THANK YOU. I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I HAVEN’T HEARD THIS BEFORE. I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT I AM READING. ON 24 — SLIDE 24 I CAN’T HELP BUT LOOK AT THE FOUR GOING TO SIX AND WONDERING OPPORTUNITY COST IS THAT A GOOD RETURN? WHY ARE WE GOING TO PUT THE 2.2 INTO CALPERS IN THIS WAY RATHER THAN IMMEDIATELY STARTING A PENSION STABILITY –>> THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. I WILL TELL YOU FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT SO RIGHT NOW THAT 4.2 SITS IN YOUR INVESTMENT POOL SO ROUGHLY EARNING ABOUT 2%.>> OKAY>>CALPERS FUND IS ASSUMING A RETURN OF SEVEN AND A QUARTER RIGHT NW SO YOU’RE BASICALLY INVESTING 2% MONEY TO ADDRESS A SEVEN AND A QUARTER PERCENT PROBLEM.>> EVEN THOUGH THEY’RE NOT GETTING SEVEN AND A QUARTER.>> THEY HAVE BEEN DOING WELL OVER THE LAST YEARS. TWO YEARS AGO THEY DID OVER 11%. LAST YEAR I THINK THEY EXCEEDED 8% IF MEMORY SERVES. THIS YEAR WHEN WE MET WITH YOU IN APRIL I THINK THE CITY MANAGER COMMENTED THEY WERE DOWN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BUT REMEMBER THE INVESTMENT ENVIRONMENT BETWEEN JANUARY AND NOW IS MUCH DIFFERENT. I THINK ALREADY A LOT OF THE INVESTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE BACK AND AT LEAST AT SLACK WATER NOW OR A LITTLE BIT AND YOU CAN’T FACTOR THE RETURNS IN UNTIL THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR JUNE 30.>> WE’RE PUTTING OUR RESOURCES INTO THEIR TRUST?>> YOU ARE .>> [OFF MIC]>>AND THAT’S EXACTLY RIGHT AND A LOT OF COUNCILS DON’T LIKE IT AND THE OTHER THING YOU PUT THAT 4.2 MILLION DOLLARS INTO THEM THE DOWN SIDE YOU’RE NOW INVESTED IN A MORE VOLATILE INVESTMENT PLAN, SO YOU ARE AT THE VAGARIES OF THE EQUITY MARKET AND IF THEY LOSE FUNDS YOU HAVE THAT MUCH MORE AT RISK BUT THAT AGAIN IT JUST DEPENDS HOW RISK ADVERSE YOU ARE.>> OKAY. I NEED TO THINK ON THAT. THANK YOU.>> OKAY.>> MR. COUNCIL MEMBER TIBBETTS.>> THANK YOU MAYOR. THAT WAS PART OF MY QUESTION.>> .>> FIRST IN TWO PARTS THE ADP IS ON TOP OF YOUR BASEMENT — I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER THREE LETTER ACRONYM –>> ARC.>> SO THE ARC IS THE MINIMUM MORTGAGE P AND I PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST. [INAUDIBLE] IS THEY WANT TO MAKE 200 AGAINST THE PRINCIPAL.>> THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS>>AND OVER TIME IT SCRUNCHES AND THE INTEREST CHARGE AND ALL GOING DOWN.>> .>> I SEE THAT VALUE BUT I HAVE TO SAY I THINK THE PLAN IS INTERESTING. I’M GOING TO CONTINUE TO LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND THE BROADER BUDGET ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY BE A LITTLE BIT RELUCTANT ON THE TWO 4.2 MILLION DOLLARS AND LET’S NOT (PAUSED) I THINK COMB COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT AND MIGHT BE BETTER PUTTING INTO ROADS AND GETTING THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PAYMENT DOWN.>> YEAH,LET DISCUSSION ON THE RISK I ABSOLUTELY AGREEMENT I WILL SAY THE $4.2 MILLION IS COLLECTED FOR PENSIONS AND I’M NOT SURE WE COULD DIVERT THAT MONEY TO OTHER SOURCES.>>MS. FLEMING.>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. S COMB COMB AND TIBBETTS CLARIFIED WHAT I MISS UNDERSTOOD AND NOT LIKE I’M GOING PUTTING MONEY ON THE MORTGAGE AND REDUCE THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST THEREIN AND US GIVING THEM MONEY AND TAKING A RISK AND HOPING THEY MANAGE IT WELL THIS TIME>>FIRST YEAR SAVINGS YOU WILL REALIZE THAT IMEDIATELY. IN THE LONG RUN IF THERE ARE DOWNTURNS ON THE INVESTMENT POOL THEN YOU’RE AT RISK.>> SO THERE IS NO WAY TO BUY A PORTION OF OUR LIABILITY? YOU SAID IT’S ESSENTIALLY — (INAUDIBLE)>> YEAH, BUY YOUR WAY OUT OF PERS?>> IF I HAD THAT MUCH COULD I BUY MY WAY OUT OF PERS AND GIVE YOU THE MONEY TO INVEST?>> NO. IF YOU ACTUALLY BOUGHT YOURSELF OUT OF PERS AND I CAN LOOK THEM UP AND I GUARANTEE IT’S EXCESS OF HALF A BILLION DOLLARS. IT’S MUCH HIGHER THAN THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY.>> [OFF MIC].>> AND YOU HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE ANNUITIES FOR THOSE IN THE PLAN AT A VERY LOW RATE, SO –>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR –>> [INAUDIBLE].>> WE’RE ASSUMING A LIABILITY THERE. OKAY. MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDING TO THE THREE CATEGORIES OF EMPLOYEE, MISCELLANEOUS, FIRE AND POLICE AND IF YOU TURN TO SLIDE — LET’S SEE. 18. JUST BACK OF THE ENVELOPE MAP HERE. I HAVE MISCELLANEOUS EMPLOYEES UNFUNDED LIABILITY ABOUT 53%, FIRE POLICE AND I APPRECIATE THE MONEY COMES FROM THE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND IN FAIRNESS OUGHT TO GO BACK. HOWEVER, WHAT I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT IS THE MOST STRATEGIC INVESTMENT FOR OUR CITY? BECAUSE WHEN THE CITY DOESN’T DO WELL FIRE, POLICE OR MISCELLANEOUS EMPLOYEES ALL TAKE A HIT, AND SO THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL ACCOUNT STABILITY OF THE CITY IS MAKING THE WISEST (PAUSED) .>> SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ALLOCATION — THE SLIDE YOU WERE LOOKING AT THAT IS THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY SO IT’S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE’RE LOOK AT. WE COLLECT 4% FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY TO PAY FOR THE PENSION OBLIGATION BOND SO WE BROKE IT DOWN BY PAYROLL BY HOW MANY EQUITABLY WHAT THE PLANS AE PAYING INTO IT. THE REASON WE’RE DOING THAT ISN’T REALLY FROM AN INVESTMENT STANDPOINT. IT’S FROM AN EQUITY STANDPOINT SO THAT YOU DON’T NECESSARILY — YOU DON’T HAVE POLICE AND FIRE MAYBE PAYING DOWN THE MISCELLANEOUS PLAN AND THEN YOU COULD KIND OF ARTIFICIALLY MAKE MISCELLANEOUS EMPLOYEES LOOK LIKE THEIR PENSION PLANS WERE LESS EXPENSIVE SO THAT’S WHY WE KIND OF ALLOCATED OUT THE –>> SURE I UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC THERE. WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET AT HRE DOES IT COST MORE OR LESS TO DO IT THIS WAY RATHER THAN JUST ATTACK THE MOST FINANCIALLY BENEFIT OR THE MOST EXPENSIVE OR MOST COSTLY IN THE LONG-TERM? I AM ASKING [INAUDIBLE] TO US?>> THERE COULD BE AND THERE WAS A DIFFERENT IN THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL GET MORE TOTAL SAVINGS IF YOU INVEST IN A LONGER AMORTIZATION SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING FROM LAST YEAR WHERE WE HAD A LOSS HYPOTHETICALLY AND AMORTIZED THAT OVER 20 YEARS AND BOUGHT DOWN THAT LINE I WOULD HAVE MORE SAVINGS THAN SOMETHING WITH A COUPLE OF YEARS ON IT. HOWEVER WITH THE COUPLE OF YEARS I LOOKED WHERE CAN WE GET THE BIGGEST ANNUAL SAVINGS AND I AM TRYING TO GET A WEDGE UNDER THAT AND HAVE SAVINGS NEXT YEAR TO CONTINUE ATTACKING IT AND IN THE LONG-TERM WE MAY WANT TO SWITCH TO A PLAN AND GO FOR THE SAVINGS AND AMORTIZATIONS BUT I AM TRYING TO GET CASH FLOW IMMEDIATELY.>> I APPRECIATE THAT BUT I WILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF THAT? IT’S OKAY AND WE DIDN’T DISCUSS IT BEFORE AND I DON’T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE HOT SEAT AND WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL COST OF DOING IT THIS WAY AND BACK TO HOW WE ALLOCATE THE PERCENTAGES OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR MISCELLANEOUS, FIRE AND POLICE IF THERE’S A WAY THAT WE CAN INVEST THOSE FUNDS NOT BASED ON THEIR ORIGINNIZATION POINT BUT THE BEST INVESTMENT AND PERHAPS IT DOESN’T MATTER AND YOU CN TELL ME THAT I. I JUST DON’T KNOW.>> WE CAN LOOK AT THE HIGHER TERM AND HIGHER TERM — I WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE AMENABLE TO THAT IF WE WERE SAY TAKING ANOTHER SOURCE OF FUNDING SO IF WE WERE TAKING GENERAL FUND ONE TIME MONEY WE HAD AND GO AND MAYBE WHERE ARE WE GETTING THE BEST ABSOLUTE RETURN REGARDLESS OF THE PLAN. IS THAT WHAT YOUR –>> WHAT I AM RELUCTANT TO DO IS LEAVE MONEY ON THE TABLE AND ESPECIALLY IF IT’S SIGNIFICANT AND IF IT’S A COUPLE THOUSAND BUCKS OR MILLIONS IT’S GOING TO MATTER. I THINK THE DIFFERENT EMPLOYEE GROUPS BENEFIT IF WE HAVE FINANCIAL STABILITY MORE THAN THE MONEY ALLOCATED EXACTLY ON ITS ORIGINATION POINT.>> YEAH, WHAT WE DONE WITHIN EACH OF THESE WE ALLOCATED BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PLANS BASED ON THE WAY IT WAS CONTRIBUTED BUT ONCE WE LOOKED AT THE INDIVIDUAL PLANS THAT’S WHAT WE DID. WE TRIED TO LOOK AT WHERE DO WE GET THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK AND WICH LINE WE WERE GOING AFTER AND THE DECISION HAPPENED WITHIN THE PLANS.>> THANK YOU. WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT. THANK YOU.>> OKAY.>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A PROCESS QUESTION SO IN THIS PORTION OF YOUR PRESENTATION YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS. WHEN DO YOU WANT FEEDBACK ON THOSE? WILL THAT BE AT THE OF THE DAY TOMORROW, TODAY? I’M NOT SURE IF IT’S FOR THE CITY MANAGER OR YOU CHUCK AND YOU HAVE SPECIFIC ONCE UNLIKE THE OTHER BULLETED ITEM.>> IF POSSIBLE MAYOR I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TOMORROW AND I CAN APPRIZE PERS WE’RE GOING THIS ROUTE AND THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. OBVIOUSLY WE WON’T PULL THE TRIGGER UNTIL ADOPTION ON THE 18TH.>> GREAT. TOMORROW IF YOU REFRAME THE QUESTION FOR ALL OF US AND I DON’T KNOW IF WE’RE THE MATH WIZARDS AND IT’S MAKING SENSE AND THERE ARE DECISION POINTS AND RE RE FRAME THE QUESTION AFTER THE PRESENTATION.>> IS IT POSSIBLE — I ASSUME YOU’RE GETTING GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THIS IS A STUDY SESSION AND HOW WE FRAME OUR RESPONSE MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WE MAY — I AM SURE WE NEED TO ASK THE QUESTION AND ARE INTERESTING IT IN THE APPROPRIATE MANNER.>> IF I MAY I HAVE A STUDY SESSION THAT COUNCIL MAY GIVE GENERAL DIRECTION AND I THINK THAT’S REALLY WHAT MR. MCBRIDE IS LOOKING FOR AT THAT POINT.>> GREAT. CONTINUE.>> SO AT THIS POINT WE’RE GOING TO MVE INTO AN INFRASTRUCTURE DISCUSSION WHICH MR. NUTT IS GOING TO PRESENT.>> ALL RIGHT. CHUCK THOUGHT I WOULD BREAK UP THE DSCUSSION AND TALK A LITTLE WHILE JUST TO GIVE YOU A BREAK FROM HIM.>> [OFF MIC] [LAUGHTER]>>A LITTLE LEVITY SOMETIMES HELPS; RIGHT? SO I’M GOING TO SPEND A LITTLE TIME TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARTICULAR WE’RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE TRIP THROUGH 10 DIFFERENT PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY MAINTAINS –>> IF I CULD INTERRUPT YOU JUST FR COUNCIL IT’S THE OTHER PRESENTATION YOU HAVE TO EXIT THAT ONE AND ENTER THE INFRASTRUCTURE PRESENTATION ON YOUR [INAUDIBLE].>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO LIKE I SAID WE’RE GOING TO LOOK AT 10 INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS. THIS IS NOT FULLY ENCAPSULATING BUT COVERS THE LARGEST PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE MAINTAIN IN THE CITY AND I TOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT TAKE ON THIS. I AM TRYING TO COMPARE SOMEWHAT WHAT WE’RE DOING WITH THE NATIONAL STANDARDS AND CALIFORNIA STANDARDS WHERE I CAN AND SO WHAT YOU SEE UP HERE YOU’VE GOT THE 10 INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS ON THE WHEEL. THOSE IN RED ARE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THOSE IN GREEN ARE GENERAL FUND. THE ONE IN BLUE IS PROPERTY. IT’S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AND JILL SCOTT WILL COME BACK LATER THIS SUMMER TO GIVE YOU A MORE DETAILED DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW OUR PROPERTY INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR OUR OPERATION MOVING FORWARD. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT WHEN I SAY WE’RE DONE INFRASTRUCTURE EVALUATIONS. WHAT TYPES OF EVALUATIONS ARE WE DOING? WE DID STAFF EVALUATED, IS NOT CONSULTANT EVALUATED AND LOOK AT COMPUTER MODELS AND FEEDBACK AND DETERMINED WHETHER WE’RE MEETING A CERTAIN STANDARD. WE UTILIZED MEDIA REPORTS AND NATIONAL AND LOCAL FEEDBACK STUDIES IN ORDER TO DETERMINE IF WE’RE MEETING A CERTAIN GRADE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE A SE REPORT IT LOOKS LIKE THE STANDARD SCHOOL REPORT, A, B, C, D, AND F AND WHEN WE DECIDE WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR US THIS IS A ROLL UP OF ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS AND HOW THEY COMPARE ACROSS THE NATION, STATE AND THE CITY. IN GENERAL YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE AHEAD OF THE GAME NATIONALLY. THAT COULD BE WE’RE A LITTLE NEWER THAN SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTRY BUT IT ALSO MEANS AT CERTAIN POINTS IN TIME W DID A LEVEL OF INVESTMENT THAT HELPED US STAY IN FAIR CONDITION THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE. SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE USED LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE CONDITION OF THE FACILITY, CAPACITY OF THE FACILITY, WHAT KIND OF FUNDING WE’RE PUTTING TOWARDS THAT, WHAT THE FUTURE NEED MIGHT BE, WHAT KIND OF OPERATION AND MAINS ARE WE PUTTING INTO THAT. OW DOES PUBLIC SAFETY FIT INTO THAT. WHAT DOES RESILIENCY MEAN WHEN IT COMES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT AND GEAN LOOKING AT INNOVATION AND HOW INNOVATION CAN BENEFIT THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECES.>> .>> SO JUST STARTING OFF WITH SOME OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS THIS WAS A PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO BPU BACK IN 2017 AND SO I’M GOING TO JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. I KNOW DO KNOW THERE ARE WATER STAFF IN THE AUDIENCE. IF THERE ARE DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT I CAN’T ANSWER THEY’RE HERE TO RESPOND. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SERVICES IN THE DRINKING WATER SUPPLY AND AS YOU RECALL WE’RE SUBSTANTIALLY BTTER IN OUR SUPPLY AND DELIVERY SYSTEM THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE SO THE 5300 SERVICES, THE 19 PUMP STATIONS, THE 6300 FIRE HIDE RANS AND WORK YOUR WAY DOWN. THERE’S A LOT OF MATERIALS AND FACILITIES THAT WE’RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING.>>>>AND THEY’RE NOT ALWAYS THE EASIEST TO INSPECT IN AN EFFORT TO DETERMINE WHAT QUALITY AND DONE WE’RE AT. WE HAVE A LITTLE EXPERIENCE DURING THE FIRE WE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT SOME OF THE FACILITIES ARE DOING DURING AN EVENT AND HOW THEY’RE FUNCTIONING AND WE WERE ABLE TO SHUT SOME DOWN TO DO AN INVESTIGATIVE EVALUATION BUT EVEN THOUGH WE’RE STANDING AT A SERVICE LEVEL B FROM A DRINKING WATER STANDPOINT WE’RE INVESTING 50% OF WHAT WE NEED TO BE INVESTED IN AN EFFORT TO TURN OVER — IN ORDER TO TURN OVER THE 619-MILES OF PIPE THAT WE’RE RESPONSIBLE FOR SO WE’RE BUDGETING ABOUT $13 MILLION A YEAR. THE INVESTIGATION AGAIN VERY LIGHT INVESTIGATION THAT WAS DONE BY ROSE — SANTA ROSA WATER AND WE HAVE A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT THERE AND HOW WE’RE GOING TO TURN OVER AND KEEP THE FACILITIES IN GOOD CNDITION. I WILL SAY THAT SANTA ROSA WATER HASN’T DONE A COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION ON THAT. THAT’S ON THEIR LIST TO THINGS TO TALK ABOUT AND OVER TAKE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS THIS IS REALLY PRELIMINARY DATA THEY UTILIZED WITH THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE. SIMILARLY WITH THE SONOMA — SONOMA — .>> .>> WASTEWATER AND IT’S A BIG INFRASTRUCTURE THEY’RE RESPONSIBLE TO TAKE IT ON AND A B MINUS IS PRETTY GOOD COMPARISON TO THE D PLUS THAT YOU SEE IN ADITION WIDE. WE’VE DEFINITELY DONE A BETTER JOB OF MANAGING AND MAINTAINING THOSE COMPONENTS FOR THE SYSTEM. SOME OF THE TERMS THEY USE NATIONWIDE ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WE DON’T ALWAYS CALL IT SONOMA COUNTY WATER AGENCY HERE BUT I WILL.>> .>> DO MY BEST TO MAKE THIN THINGS LEVEL ACROSS THE BOARD. WE HAVE $11 MILLION DEFICIT TO KEEP OUR FACILITIES IN GOOD CONDITION SO WE SHOULD BE INVESTING ABOUT $23 MILLION A YEAR. ALSO PART THIS IS THE WATER REUSE AND WE’VE BEEN SORT OF LEADING THE NATION HISTORICALLY ON WATER RESEUSS. I MEAN THE FACT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP THE GEYSERS PIPELINE. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY IN AN EFFORT TO IRRIGATE THEIR FACILITIES. WE HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF GETTING THERE HOWEVER ALL OF THE THINGS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE AND IT’S BEEN A DIFFICULT TIME TO KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THOSE. THE GEYSERS PIPELINE ALONG IS A 40-MILE PIPELINE AND WE HAVE 33-MILES OF IRRIGATION LINES. IT’S NOT INSIGNIFICANT TO THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THAT IS PART WHY WE GAVE IT A MEDIOCRE GRADE AND SOMETHING WE SHOULD INVEST MORE IN AND THEY WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT SANTA ROSA WATER IS DOING TO INVEST HERE AND WE FEEL THERE’S A $14 MILLION ANNUAL DEFICIT RELATING TO HOW WE SHOULD MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM IN AN EFFORT CONTINUE TO STAY NATIONALLY SIGNIFICANT AND REGIONALLY CONFIDENT THAT OUR SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE INTO THE FUTURE. ONE OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS IS OUR TRANSIT AND TRANSIT SEEMS LIKE IT’S AN ODD THING TO BE CONSIDERED INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THERE’S A COUPLE TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE HERE. TRANSIT OWNS AND OPERATES PHYSICAL TRANSIT AND MANAGE THE TRANSIT MALL, AND THE WEST SIDE TRANSIT CENTER AND OUR TWO MAJOR HUB FACILITIES AND WE HAVE THE THREE OTHER FAMILIARITIES AND ASSETS THAT WE’RE RESPONSIBLE FOR NOTION TO THE 400 BUS STOPS TO MAINTAIN AND WE HAVE THE BUSH WASH, THE TRANSIT OPERATION BUILDING SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FACILITIES BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE RUBBER TRE FACILITIES. OUR BUSES ARE FACILITIES. WE DIDN’T INCLUDE FLEET AS A PRIMARY INFRASTRUCTURE TYPE MOSTLY BECAUSE THERE WERE COMPARABLES ACROSS THE COUNTRY OR STATE SO WE DROPPED THAT OUT OF THE PRESENTATION BUT THAT IS ANOTHER PIECE TO TALK ABOUT AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE WE HAVE 29 FIXED ROUTE VEHICLES AND FIVE PAST USEFUL LIFE. I KNOW URI CAME AND PRESENTED A PLAN HOW WE’RE GOING TO CHANGE OUR METHOD OF BEING UPGRADE OUR RUBBER TIRE FACILITIES OUR BUSES TO KEEP THEM IN GOOD CONDITION. WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO THOUGH WE DO A BUS BUY ABOUT EVERY THREE YEARS AD WE PURCHASE ABOUT FOUR BUSES A YEAR. WE FIGURE BASED ON THE REPLACEMENT NEED IT IS OF OUR OPERATION WE SHOULD BE BUYING FIVE BUSES AND FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE DEFICIT WE’RE SHORT ONE DUS EVERY TIME WE DO THIS AND WE UTILIZE GRAND FUNDS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO SUPPLEMENT AND WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL GETTING TWO GRANTS THROUGH THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION TO BUY TWO ELECTRIC BUSES AND HEARD LAST WEEK THAT THE STATE’S COOPERATIVE PURCHASE AREEMENT SURROUND FINAL REVIEW WHICH IS EXCITING AND ALLOW US TO ENTER INTO THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING THE FOUR BUSES. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT TRANSIT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND NOT JUST RUBBER TIRED AND WE’RE FINDING IN THE INSPECTION WE’RE HAVING ROAD BED ISSUES IN THE TRANSIT MALL. WE HAVE A SECTION OF CONCRETE ROCKING UNDER THE BUS’ WEIGHT AND LOOKING TO DO SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THIS SUMMER. THAT ONE ON A MINOR PIECE IS A $40,000 COST BUT WHAT WE ALSO NOTICED WE EXPAND THE USE OF THE KIOSK. FOR MANY YEARS IT LAID EMPTY AND FOUR YEARS AGO WE GOT A CUSTOMER REPRESENTATIVE AND GREYHOUND PUT A REPRESENTATIVE IN THERE. TWO PEOPLE IT’S HOT AND NOT HAVE HEELING OR AIR CONDITIONING AND OPEN TO THE ELEMENTS IN THE GARAGE AND THINGS TO STUDY AND EVALUATE AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO ENHANCE THAT FOR THE LONG-TERM VALUE OF THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM AND WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. WE WERE AWARDED A GRANT AOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO THAT WE’RE LOOKING TO START TO IMPLEMENT. THAT WILL HELP DOING SOME OF THE INVESTIGATIVE SUDIES TO DETERMINE WHAT ACTUALLY MAY NEED TO BE DONE FOR OUR TRANSIT MALL AND SOME OF THE LARGER HUBS THAT WE HAVE. THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE SYSTEM ITSELF. WE WENT THROUGH A LONG REIMAGINED CITY BUS PROCESS. IT’S ACTUALLY AT THIS POINT WE FEEL FAIRLY VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE COMPLETED PHASE ONE AND WE MADE AN ADJUSTMENT EARLIER THIS YEAR AND WE’RE VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. THERE IS A SECOND PHASE AND FURTHER EXPANSION OF THE BUS SYSTEM AND INCREASED FREQUENCIES THROUGHOUT THE NETWORK. WE ANTICIPATE BASED ON THE CURRENT COST THAT HAS ABOUT A $5 MLLION COST TO IT AND IN ORDER FOR US TO EXPAND THE SYSTEM TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THAT PROGRAM AND THEN THERE’S A SECOND PROGRAM ENHANCING THE WEEKEND SERVICE AND ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE DEFICIT FROM A TRANSIT OPERATING OUR LONG-TERM PICTURE FOR WHAT WE EXPECT THAT TRANSIT SYSTEM TO BE WE’RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A $6 MILLION TOTAL ANNUAL DEFICIT FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT. THEN WE TALK ABOUT ROADWAYS AND YOU HAVE HEARD US TALK ABOUT THEM A LOT. A LOT OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS WE DON’T COME AND TALK ABOUT VERY OFTEN. ROADWAYS IS ONE THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT QUITE A BIT AND THINGS CONTINUE TO CHANGE SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE ABOUT 509-MILES OF ROADWAY. OUR CURRENT PCI IS 61. WE RECALCULATED THIS YEAR AND WHAT WE WERE REPORTING LASTED YEAR WAS A DEGRADATION TO ABOUT 59. THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT THAT COUNCIL PUT IN AUTHORIZING THE $3 MILLION INVESTMENT INTO LOCAL ROADS AND THE MONEY CAME INTO SPECIFICALLY TO ASSIST WITH THE ROSELAND WORK AND THE INCREASE IN SB 1 WE THINK HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN BRINGING THAT TARGET OR THAT CURRENT PCI UP THE TWO POINTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THAT’S A VERY EXCITING THING. IT SHOWS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A MOVE ON OUR CURRENT TARGET. NOW, WE DON’T AS A CITY HAVE AN ACTUAL TARGET PCI. THERE’S NO PLACE WE’RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. ALL WE HAVE IS A TARGET PROVIDED BY THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION OF 75 SO WHEN WE SAY WHAT OUR DEFICIT IS THAT’S PART OF WHAT WE’RE SHOOTING FOR IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE THAT, SO OVER THE LAST DECADE WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING BECAUSE THAT’S SUCH A BIG NUMBER AND I WILL GET TO THAT? THAT — IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES HOW DO WE SUSTAIN THAT AND KEEP THE 61 IN PLACE?>> .>> SO WE ASSUME THAT TAKES ABOUT 17.5 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND I HAVE IT SPREAD OUT FOR WHAT TYPES OF FUNDING SOURCES WE HAVE AND DFFERENT TYPE WAS PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE FROM THE SLURRY SEAL PROGRAM TO THE POT HOLING AND PAVEMENT. WE INVEST A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY IN YEAR. WE ADDED THE $3.5 MILLION FOR SB 1 AND WITH THE FUNDS THAT THE COUNTY IS PROVIDING US FOR THE NEXT YEARS RELATING ROSELAND AND STILL LEASE A SHORT FALL. AGAIN WE MADE MOVEMENTS AND STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS. OUR STAFF TRIED THEIR BEST TO UTILIZE THE FUNDS IN AS EXPANSIVE WAY AS POSSIBLE BUT WE SEE THERE ARE CHALLENGES AHEAD. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ROADWAYS WE’RE ALSO DISCUSSING STREET LIGHTS TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SAFETY DEVICES AND GUARDRAILS AND RETAINING WALLS IN THE STREET THAT ARE KEEPING THE STREET IN PLACE SO THOSE ARE ALL PIECES TAT WE WRAPPED UP AS WE TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR ROADWAY CONDITION IS AND AS YOU CAN SEE FEDERALLY WE’RE LOOKING AT A LEVEL OR A DEGRADE. CALIFORNIA HAS A D GRADE.>> .>> WE’RE EXCEEDING THAT IN IN THE BAY AREA I WOULD SAY WE’RE ON PAR. THE AVERAGE PCI IN THE BAY AREA IS SOMEWHERE HOVERING AROUND 56 FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. W JUST BELOW THAT BUT WE’RE STILL IN ABOUT THE LOWER PART OF THE 30 THIRD OF BAY AREA CITIES. SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HOW THIS INVOLVES — YOU KNOW YOU’VE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DEGRADATION CURVES OVER THE YEARS HOW PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE MAKE IT SAYS DIFFICULT TO CATCH UP IF WE’RE NOT KEEPING UP AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE WHAT HAPPENS IF WE STAY ON THE CURRENT TRACK. THAT CURVE CONTINUES TO WORK ITS WAY DOWN THE PCI RANGE OVER THE COURSE OF YEARS AND TAKES MORE AND MORE MONEY ANNUALLY IN AN EFFORT TO KEEP UP WITH THAT DEGRADATION. AND SO LIKE I SAID I WAS GOING TOOK ABOUT WHERE OUR TARGETS R RIGHT NOW OUR TARGET IS TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH WHAT’S CURRENTLY EXISTING AT THE 61. THERE’S BEEN A COMMENT FOR MANY YEARS ABOUT A WORST FIRST TYPE OF APPROACH. LET’S FIX ALL OF THE WORST ROADS RIGHT OFF THE BAT AND THAT’S WHERE THE INVESTMENT SHOULD BE AND THE GOOD ROADS ARE IN GOOD CONDITION AND WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM IF WE ADDRESS THOSE WITH INDEX LESS THAN 25 WHICH IS AN IDENTIFICATION OF FAILED IT WOULD BE $171 MILLION OVER A SEVEN YEAR PERIOD JUST TO TRY TO FIX ALL OF THOSE STREETS. WE’VE SORT OF IDENTIFIED THAT POTENTIALLY A TARGET OF 65 MAKES SENSE. THAT PUTS US IN THE MIDDLE RANGE OF GOOD AND GIVES US AT LEAST A FEELING THAT WE MAKING PROGRESS. WE TALKED ABOUT 17.5 MILLION TO BE THE CURRENT AND STEADY. IT WOULD TAKE 23.FIVE OVER 10 YEARS TO COME UP WITH THE 65 AND ONCE WE’RE THERE THE ANNUAL INVESTMENT SHOULD BE $22 MILLION. IF WE’RE ACHIEVING MTC’S VERSION IT’S $35 MILLION TO BRING IT UP TO THE 75 OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD AND ANNUAL INVESTMENT OF $20 MILLION. SO THIS IS SORT OF THE CRUX OF IT RIGHT HERE IS WHY ARE EARTH WE WOULD INVEST IN ROADS? BESIDES FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY VALUE OF COMING — YOU KNOW MAINTAINING THOSE WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE POLICE AND FIRE AND THEIR ABILITY TO RESPOND AND THEIR EQUIPMENT RECEIVE THE BENEFIT OF THE POT HOLES AND THIS IS ESTIMATE FOR THE DRIVERS AND INDEPENDENT STUDY DONE EVERY YEAR. THEY’RE A NON-PROFIT GROUP OUT OF WASHINGTON, D.C. THAT PUBLISHED THIS FOR REGIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, AND FOR THE SAN FRANCISCO OAKLAND AREA WHICH IS THE CLOSEST AREA US TO AND WE BELIEVE ACTUALLY INCORPORATES SANTA ROSA OUR AVERAGE COST TO DRIVERS IS ABOUT $843 ANNUALLY FOR THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE ROADWAYS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR AREA SO YOU KNOW WE’RE ALL PAYING THAT IN AN EFFORT TO DRIVE ON THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR ROADWAYS. THE NEXT AREA –>> CAN I PAUSE YOU AND HALFWAY THROUGH TO SEE IF THERE AE QUESTIONS ON THE FIVE AREAS FROM COUNCIL? ANY QUESTIONS? GREAT. CONTINUE. SORRY. MS. FLEMING. .>> THANK YOU. YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OR BETTER DIRECTED TO MR. MC DRIED MCBRIDE AND CURIOUS ON OVER THE INVESTMENT AND LEAVE EXPENSIVE FOR US TO MAINTAIN?>> THAT’S BEEN A DEBATE FOR A LONG TIME. MTC BELIEVES 75 IS THE SWEET SPOT AND ONCE YOU GET TO THAT SPACE THE COST OF DOING MAINTENANCE BASICALLY KEEPING GOOD — KEEPING ROADS IN GOOD CONDITION IS AT THE OPTIMAL RATE. IT’S VERY EXPENSIVE FOR AGENCIES TO GET THERE HOWEVER.>> YEAH I SEE IT WOULD BE A HUGE INVESTMENT TO GET THERE. I AM WONDERING WHAT THE CUMULATIVE COST OR DELTA WOULD BE AT STAYING 61 OR TRGETING BETWEEN 65 AND 75 OVER THE LNG-TERM AND DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THE COSTS ARE EEN OR NOT?>> WE COULD DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH INTO THAT INTO THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION. OUR BELIEF IS THAT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 65 AND 70 IS PROBABLY THE OPTIMAL SPACE FOR OUR CITY WHERE WE’RE ABLE TO DO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE TECHNOLOGIES AND SLURRY SEAL AND CRACK SEAL AND KEEP THE ROADS IN GOOD CONDITION AND ALLOW TO HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF ROADS IN THAT CATEGORY.>> I UDERSTAND THERE’S A COST TO PUTTING IN AND NOT PUTTING IT IT IN TAKING CARE OF IT AND I ASSUMING YOU WILL DO THAT. THE OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT YOU MENTIONED AND I AM WONDERING IF THERE ARE FLUCTUATIONS IN GAS TAXES AND MOVE TOWARDS ELECTRIC AND HOW DEPENDENT WE ARE IN THAT PART OF OUR PORTFOLIO? IT DOESN’T SEEM TO BE THE LARGEST PORTION BUT I WANT TO KNOW GOING FORWARD.>> GAS TAX IS A VERY AWKWARD SOURCE. YOU’RE HEARING THAT NATIONALLY THAT WE NEED TO FIND A WAY OF WEANING OURSELVES OFF OF THE GS TAX. THERE IS A MOVEMENT AFOOT NATIONWIDE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING AKIN TO A VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED METHODOLOGY. THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DID A SERIES OF PILOT STUDIES AND WHAT COULD BE A REASONABLE SUBSTITUTE FOR GAS TAX? WE RECEIVED A LITTLE OVER $4 MILLION A YEAR FROM THE TAX. HALF IS FOR STAFF AND RESOURCES. THE OTHER HALF IS SPLIT BETWEEN PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS SIGNALS AND BIKE LANES AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS.>>AND THE EXPIRATION OF MEASURE M WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN?>> IT’S SET TO EXPIRE IN 2024 AND I KNOW OUR REPRESENTATIVE VICE MAYOR ROGERS IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON A SUBCOMMITTEE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THAT REAUTHORIZATION PLAN COULD LOOK LIKE.>> OKAY. AND THEN JUST GOING DOWN AGAIN UTILITY IMPACT FEE. WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF THAT INCOME?>> SO THOSE ARE WATER FUNDS, WATER AND WASTE-WATER FUNDS AND A FEASIBILITY THAT PUBLIC WORKS AND WATER HAVE WORKED TOGETHER ON TO PAY ARE IF THE VLUE OF HAVING UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE ROADWAY AND ITS IMPACTS TO THOSE ROADWAYS AND THOUGH THEY PROVIDE AN ENHANCE THE PAVING SERVICE.>> .>> WHICH WE CALL THE UTILITY IMPACT FEES THAT ALLOW US TO HELP RESTORE ROADS WHERE THEY’RE DOING SUBSTANTIAL MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT WORK.>> SO YOU SEE THAT REVENUE STREAM IS FAIRLY STEADY?>> THAT REVENUE STREAM IS STEADY. AS LONG AS THEY’RE GOING THROUGH AND REPLACING UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THIS REVENUE STREAM IS FAIRLY CONSTANT.>> THANK YOU.>> MS. COMBS.>> THANK YOU. (PAUSED) .>> I THINK THIS IS A NEAT IDEA AND GLAD THERE I AN ORGANIZATION IS DOING THIS. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT PCI THEY USED, LIKE AVERAGE SAN FRANCISCO OAKLAND PCI –>> ACTUALLY IN THIS CASE I DON’T KNOW IF THEY USED A PCI. I THINK THE PREDOMINANT SUPPORTERS ARE INDUSTRY SO THEY’RE LOOKING AT COST THAT US — THAT WE DRIVERS ARE SPENDING TO DO AUTO MAINTENANCE AND SO THEY’RE LOOKING AT RECEIPTS THAT ARE COMING IN FROM DIFFERENT TYPES OF MAINTENANCE AND DIFFERENT CHALLENGES RELATINGED TO SAFETY AND CONGESTION AND USING AVERAGE DOLLARS RELATED TO OUR HOURLY WAGES TO COME UP WITH CONGESTION PRICING AND WHAT NOT.>> [OFF MIC] IF WE INCREASE THE PCI FROM THIS LEVEL TO THIS LEVEL WE PROVIDE A COST SAVINGS TO OUR RESIDENTS?>> THIS IS A VERY GENERALIZED STUDY OVER A VERY LARGE AREA. THEY USE METROPOLITAN AREAS GREATER THAN A MILLION IN MOST CASE JUST IN AN EFFORT TO GET SOME IDEA OF THE COST OF DRIVING A CAR WHEN YOU HAVE ROADWAY CONDITIONS THAT MAYBE LESS THAN OPTIMAL.>> OKAY. AND ON THE ROADWAY SLIDE WITH COST TO RECOVER THE GRAPH WITH THE BLUE AND RED LINES. YEAH. I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY I FIND THIS TO BE A VERY INFORMATIVE GRAPH BECAUSE THIS IS THE GRAPH THAT LETS US KNOW WHAT IT COST TO DELAY DOING THE MAINTENANCE. WHAT’S THE ROUGH PCI NUMBER WHERE YOU HAVE TO CMPLETELY REBUILD THE ROAD? I AM REMEMBERING A ROAD 40 TO 60 BUT I DON’T REMEMBER WHERE IN THE RANGE.>> YEAH, IF WE’RE GETTING BELOW 50 WE’RE CONCERNED ABOUT A PARTICULAR ROAD. IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO DO THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. WE’RE LEARNING NEWER AND BETTER WAYS OF DOING WORK, AND WE’RE TAKING SOME RISKS SO RECENTLY IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS WE JUST REPAVED A ROAD IN ROSELAND THAT HAD A PCI OF NEAR ZERO. HOW WE DID IT WE DETERMINED THAT THE BASE WAS ACTUALLY IN GOOD CONDITION THAT PAVEMENT HAD BEEN DAMAGED OVER THE COURSE OF DECADES BECAUSE WEATHERING AND WE DID A LEVELING COURSE AND A FINAL PAVEMENT COURSE AND ANTICIPATE IT WILL LAST IN THE GOOD CONTINUE STATE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS SO WE’RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE HOW WE INVEST OUR MONEY TO THE BEST — TO THE COMMUNITIES’ BENEFIT.>> THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT IT CAN BE DIFFICULT WHEN LOOKING AT THIS THERE WOULD BE A TENDENCY TO KEEP GOOD ROADS AND LET BAD ROADS G. (CHANGING CAPTIONERS) SOME OF THE ROADS LOOK WHAT LOOKS LIKE CROCODILE BACK, WHAT LEVEL IS A KIND OF ALLIGATOR ROAD? IS THAT ABOVE 50 OR BELOW 50?>>IF YOU’RE START TO GO SEE ALLIGATOR STRETCHING, YOU’RE AT A 50 OR BELOW.>>OKAY, AND NORMALLY, WE HAVE AN EXPERIMENT RUNNING NOW, BUT NORMALLY, THAT ROAD YOU WOULD NOT RESURFACE IT WITH SLURRY SEAL, WOULD YOU DO MORE?>>WE WOULD MORE AMORE INVASIVE WORK. DEPENDING ON THE LENGTH AND SIZE OF THE DAMAGED ROADWAY. OR IF IT’S MORE PROMINENT, WE JUST DO A COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION.>>WHAT DOES IT COST TO DO ROUGHLY A MILE OF ROAD IN EACH OF THE TWO WAYS? JUST SLURRY SEALING VERSUS REBUILT? LET’S SAY FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND ON A SLURRY SEAL, WE WOULD SPEND $10 ON A RECONSTRUCT.>>THANK YOU.>>ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?>>ALL RIGHT.>>NOW WE TALK ABOUT BRIDGES. WE HAVE 63 VEHICLE BRIDGES WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER ON-SYSTEM BRIDGES A COMBINATION OF ON-SYSTEM AND OAF-SYSTEM. ON-SYSTEM MEANS THE ADMINISTRATION TRACKS IT. AND CALTRANS TRACKS IT. OFF-SYSTEM, MEANS THEY MONITOR IT, BUT IT’S AN ISSUE ON US ON ONE OF THEIR ROADWAY THAT’S THEY’RE TRACKINGMENT OUR AVERAGE AGE OF OUR BRIDGES IS 5 4 YEARS. ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD NUMBERS, ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL. WE DON’T SPEND A LOT OF MONEY MANAGING OUR BRIDGES PARTLY BECAUSE THEY’RE ALL IN GOOD CONDITION. ABOUT EVERY FEW YEARS, CALTRANS COMES OUT AND DOES AN EVALUATION AND PROVIDES US WHAT THE STATUS OF THE BRIDGES ARE. WE TALK ABOUT SUFFICIENCY RATINGS. IT’S A BIG WORD, SO TO GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK. IT’S CALCULATED ON 55% STRUCTURAL AND 30% OB SO LENSENTER. AND 40%. SO IF YOU’RE 80 OR LESS IS REQUIRED TO QUALIFY FOR FEDERAL REPAIR FUNDING. AND 50% OR LESS IS FOR REPLACEMENT FUNDING. SO IN OUR CASE, WE HAVE A FAIRLY GOOD SUFFICIENCY RATING IN TOWN. YOU CAN SEE THE ON SYSTEM AND OFF SYSTEM BRIDGES, WE’RE ABOVE 80 IN BOTH CATEGORIES AND WE’RE DOING OUR BEST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE MINOR ISSUES THAT WE SEE FROM CALTRANS SUCH AS SCOUR IN THE CREEK BED AREA. WE’VE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT 85,000 A YEAR OF INVESTMENT. AND OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS WE’VE INVESTED ROUGHLY $480,000. THE LEVEL OF MONEY FLUX OOH ATES ON THE TYPE OF BRIDGE IMPROVEMENT. BUT WE ESTIMATE 4.4 MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE’VE DIFFERED ALONG THE WAY. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BRIDGES THAT REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITIES, SUCH AS THE–BRIDGE. THE ACTIVITIES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN ON THAT PARTICULAR BRIDGE. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES THAT WE’RE KEEPING TRACK OF BUT WE’RE NOT NECESSARILY ASKING FOR SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT YET AT THIS TIME. THERE ARE 127 MINOR CROSSINGS, LIKE THE COVERTS, THIS IS ACTUAL ROADWAY BRIDGES. AND WE DON’T HVE ANY DATA ON THAT. CALTRANS DOES NOT DO THOSE INSPECTIONS AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE NOT CONSTRUCTED INSPECTIONS OF THOSE 127 CROSSINGS EITHER. NOW LET’S TALK ABOUT RECREATION AND PARKS. I MEAN, THEY HAVE A TON OF INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY’RE A HUGE OPERATION. YOU CAN SEE THEY’VE GOT FIVE DIFFERENT MAJOR RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. THEY’VE GOT 637 ACRES OF PARK, 237 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE. YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT BREAKS DOWN WITHIN THEIR INVENTORY OUTLAY. SOME ADDITIONAL EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE ARE. THEY RANGE ALL OVER THE PLACE. HALF COURT, BASKETBALL COURT, DOG DRINKING FOUNTAINS, BENCHES THEY HAVE A LOT TO MANAGE. WE’VE IDENTIFIED THAT THEIR GENERAL GRADE IS ABOUT A C MINUS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT RELATED TO OUR FUNDING. IT’S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THAT TEAM TO TURN AROUND AND MAINTAIN THE QUALITY AND LEVEL THAT W FEEL IS NECESSARY OR THAT THE PUBLIC IS REQUESTING. TRYING TO DO SOME COMPARATIVES TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS DEPARTMENT OR WHERE THIS ACTIVITY IS AT. WE LOOK AT THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION, THEY JUST PRODUCED THEIR COMPARATIVE RATING SCHEDULE. YOU CAN SEE IN HERE, WHERE WE’RE AT, RELATING TO THE NRPA AFRMG. –AVERAGE. ALL AND ALL IT LOOKS GOOD WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INVESTMENT PER COST PER INVESTMENT AND PER-CAPITA. WHEN YOU START TO GO DOWN A LITTLE, YOU SEE WHERE THINGS DEMONSTRATE WHERE WE’RE AT. OUR REVENUE PER-CAPITA, SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THAN OUR NATIONAL PARTNERS. OUR PERCENT OF OPERATING IS SUBSTANTIAL OR REVENUE IS SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THAN OUR NATIONAL PARTNERS. AND BOTH OUR PARK ACRES PER THOUSAND RESIDENT NZ OUR FFE ARES O LOWER THAN OUR NATIONAL PARTNERS. WHAT WE’RE SEEING, IS THIS IS LIKELY A COST OF LIVING COMPONENT. THIS IS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS IN OUR AREA. IT COSTS MORE FOR US TO MANAGE OUR PARKS OUT HERE THAN IT DOES IN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS, AGAIN THESE ARE SOME BIG KEY SAMPLES. THESE ARE THE MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES. WHEN WE ROLL UP ALL OF THOSE PARKS, AND LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF AREAS, WE FEEL WE’RE ABOUT 4 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF DIFFERED MAINTENANCE. AND AS YOU GO DOWN, BASKETBALL COURT SOCCER FIELDS, OVERALL WHEN WE ROLL THIS UP IT’S ABOUT 50 MILLION DOLLARS. WE ASSUME THAT’S ABOUT A TEN-YEAR AVERAGE. AND SO IF WE PULL THAT BACK, IT’S ABOUT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS OF YOUR INVESTMENT THAT IS NEEDED TO KEEP OUR FACILITIES IN GOOD OPERATING AND FUNCTIONING CONDITION. NOW, THIS IS A VERY ROUGH EVALUATION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT RECREATION AD PARKS WILL LIKELY COME BACK AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT LATER, WITH WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT THE NEW MEASURE M, THE RECREATION MEASURE THAT WAS RECENTLY PASSED BY THE VOTERS IN 2018, IS TO ACTUALLY FUND A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY. THAT THAT WE KNOW THE NUMBERS HERE RATHER THAN MAKING SOME BEST ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON THE EXPERTISE THAT WE HAVE IN THE DEPARTMENT. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE EXPECT WE’LL LEARN ABOUT MORE ABOUT IN THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR. BUT THIS IS GUIDANCE. WE DO HAVE THREE DAMS THAT WE’RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF WHICH ARE OWNED BY RECREATION PARKS. SANTA ROSA A WATER OWNS A MULTITUDE OF LEVEES THIS IS ON SAFETY OF DAMS. AND THEY COME OUT AND DO AN EVALUATION ANNUALLY IN EFFORT TO DETERMINE WHAT THE CONDITION OF THE FACILITIES ARE, SIMILAR TO THE BRIDGES, THEY PROVIDE US WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON THINGS THAT WE SHOULD DO. PREDOMINANTLY IS MANAGING INVASIVE OR BURROW SPECIES AND CERTAIN PLANT SPECIES THAT HAVE A TENDENCY TO BREAK APART THE FACILITIES. AGAIN, WE DON’T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. IT’S SOMETHING THAT WE’LL BE LOOKING TOWARD PROVIDING MORE INFORMATION IN THE FUTURE. WE’LL BE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT OUR MPS THAT DETERMINE WHAT HAPPENS IF A DAM WERE TO FAIL AND WHAT THAT CHALLENGES ARE. WATER HAS THEIR INANDATION MAPS. TELECOM AND DIGITAL. THIS IS ONE THAT WE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT YEARS AGO, IN TALKING WITH OUR CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NED T START TAKING CARE OF. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR BROADBAND NEEDS AND HOW WE LOOK AS AN ATTRACTIVE TO BUSINESSES WE’RE LIVING IN A DEEFFICIENT WORLD. WE DON’T HAVE A LEVEL OF BROADBAND THAT SOME MNY OF OUR ALTERNATE, THAT OUR OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA HAVE. THEREFORE WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT, HAVING CHOICES OF WHERE THEY WANT TO POSITION THEMSELVES, THIS IS IN THE AREA THAT WE BELIEVE IN SANTA ROSA, WE’RE BEHIND IN. NOW FROM THE STAND POINT OF WHAT IS THE CITY’S INVESTMENT, WE HAVE NOT MADE THAT DECISION WHAT THE CITY’S INVESTMENT IS. FOR THE MOMENT, THIS IS BEEN A PRIVATELY AREA OF INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT MORE AND MORE CITIES ARE DOING MORE CITY SPONSOR BROADBAND. MORE CITIES ARE TAKE ON FIBEROPTIC INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE’RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE WANT TO TAKE GET INTO AND TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. SO OVER THE COURSE OF NEXT YEAR OR TWO, WE’LL START TO HEAR MORE AND MORE FROM ERIC McHENRY AS TO WHAT IT IS WE’RE GOING TO INVEST IN AS WE TY TO COMPETE WITH OTHER CITIES FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS CUSTOMERS. ALL RIGHT, HOW ABOUT, I ASK FOR QUESTIONS THERE BEFORE I GO INTO BUILDINGS?>>COUNCIL, ANYTHING? MR. TIBBETTS?>>THANK YOU, MAYOR. SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP BROADBAND, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LAYING CONDUIT? OR PARTNERING WITH PRIVATE CONTRACTORS? WHAT IS THE CONCEPT BEHIND THAT?>>SO RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NOT A CONCEPT. WHAT WE’RE SAYING IS WHEN WE LOOK AT CAPABILITIES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST IN TOWN, FROM THE PRIVATE SIDE OR THE PUBLIC SIDE, WE ARE NOT IN THE SAME POSITION AS SOME OF OUR OTHER CITIES. THERE WAS A STATISTIC THAT ERIC PROVIDED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE STARTED THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WIRELESS INFRASTRUCTURE AND 5-G INFRASTRUCTURE STATING THAT WE WERE 122 OUT OF 125 COMMUNITIES THAT PROVIDED THAT SERVICE. NOT NECESSARILY CITY INFRASTRUCTURE BUT EVEN PRIVATE INDUSTRIES WILLINGNESS AND WILLINGNESS TO INVEST IN THAT COMMUNITY. THAT’S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE’RE LOOKING AT.>>SO ADDITIONALLY, T WHAT JAIS AN JUST SAID, WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A DISASTER, AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT AND DISASTER RECOVERY WHICH THERE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT MATCH REQUIREMENT. BUT IF YOU DON’T ASK, THEN YOU’RE NOT IN TE CONVERSATION ABOUT EVEN THE MATCH. WHICH WOULD, THE THE EMPHASIS OF THE PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE IN THE DOWN FOUN BROADBAND SUPPORT. SO FIBER IN THE DOWNTOWN. THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ECONOMIC AGENCY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS FUNDED IN THE PAST AND IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY IN POST DISASTER COMMUNITIES. SO WE’RE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THAT GRANT APPLICATION. AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PARTNERS AS WE GO TROUGH THIS PROCESS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. BUT THERE IS A GRANT ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PROVIDE ITING DOWNTOWN THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING SUBMITTED.>>IS THIS A QUESTION?>>ACTUALLY IHAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DAMS. I HAVE A STRONG INTEREST IN THOSE. THE INUNDATION MAP, DOES THAT INCLUDE EARTHQUAKE STABILITY OR ANY KIND OF ASSESSMENT WITH REGARD TO HOW WELL THEY WILL HOLDUP AT AN EARTHQUAKE.>>IT’S LOOKING AT THE FAILURE OF IT.>>NATURAL FAILURE AS OPPOSE TODAY EARTHQUAKE FAILURE.>>IT’S LOOKING AT ANY FAILURE, IF THIS DAM WERE TO FAIL, WHAT WOULD THE INUNDATION OF WATER COMING OUT OF THAT RESERVOIR.>>IF IT FAILS, HOW IT’S IMPACTED?>>EXACTLY. WHAT WE HAVE NOT DONE IS A STRUCTURAL EVALUATION OF THE DAM THAT DETERMINE WHAT LEVEL OF SEISMIC EVENT WOULD CAUSE THAT DAM TO FAIL. SO THAT’S A DIFFERENT STUDY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.>>AND WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT EITHER.>>TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON’T BELIEVE WE HAVE.>>I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN FOLLOWING UP ON THAT.>>THOSE ARE THINGS THAT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE’RE TRYING TO BUILD THIS AS A WAY TO TRACK OUR ASSETS AND FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE STRATEGIC DECISIONS. FOR TOO LONG, WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT WORK AS A TEAM. WE’RE TRYING TO BUILD THAT ORGANIZATION, PROACTIVE LEA CROSS THE ORGANIZATION. WHEN WE GET INTO THE ORGANIZATIONAL CONVERSATION IN REAL, I MEANT IN CONVERSATION THAT’S ONE OF THE CHIEF, BENEFITS OF THE REAL THAT I’M IN, IS WE’RE ASKING FOR THESE CONVERSATIONS. WE’RE STARTING THESE CONVERSATIONS HOLISTICKLY AND WE’RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE ANYBODY IN THE ORGANIZATION WITHOUT HAVING THAT ADDRESSED. AND I THINK YOU’RE HEARING THAT EVEN WHEN WE DID THE FACILITIES ASSESSMENT A YEAR AGO, WHAT WAS PAINFULLY APPARENT IS THAT OUR REC AND PARKS INFRASTRUCTURE, IF IT WAS NOT A BUILDING, IT WAS LEFT NOT ADDRESSED IN THAT PROCESS. THAT’S WHY WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THOSE MEASURE M FUNDS AND ACTUALLY ASSESS THOSE LOCATIONS INCLUDING THESE TWO AREAS WHICH ARE, WHICH ARE DAMS FOR RECREATION WHICH IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF INFORMATION WHICH WOULD LOOK AT RECREATIONAL FACILITIES ARE. THESE ARE RECREATIONAL THEY’RE NOT PART OF A LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS PROVIDING LEVEE SUPPORT OR OTHER THINGS. NOW AS WE GO THROUGH IT, MAYBE WE’LL LEARN SOME THINGS. BUT RIGHT NOW THOSE ARE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. THEY ARE NOT PART OF A STORM WATER PLAN OR ANYTHING. NOW WE HAVE WORK TO DO AROUND THAT FRONT AS WELL AS STORM WATER.>>SO THIS IS THE LAKE RAPHENE AND NOT THE SPRING LAKE?>>CRRECT.>>DAM REGION THAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT.>>YES THE SPRING LAKE IS A DIFFERENT OWNER ENTITY.>>SO IS IT THE SAFETY OF DAM THE SAME ONE THAT MONORS THE ORVILLE DAM?>>YES, I BELIEVE SO.>>MR. ROGERS.>>MINE IS MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FROM DISTRACTING FROM MR. 34*IK BRIDE’S 300 MILLION UNFUNDED LIABILITY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE YOU A LITTLE SHIFT.>>I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, INTERNET OF THINGS? THAT’S A NEW TERM.>>THAT’S A TECHNICAL TERM AND ERIC IS IF HE WANTS TO DESCRIBE INTERNET OF THINGS. IT’S SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE JUST BECOME A CATCH PHRASE FOR ALL THINGS THAT WORK THROUGH AND ARPD THE INTERNET. BUT ERIC, DO YOU HAVE A MORE DETAILED?>>IT’S INFRASTRUCTURE?>>IT IS, YES.>>YEAH I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT TERM. IT IS A TERM THAT IS USED HEAVILY. MR. COMBS WAS DEAD ON, WE HAVE ABOUT 50 THINGS IN OUR HOME THAT ARE IMPORTING THINGS BACK AND FORTH. IT’S CALLED INTERNET OF THINGS. THE INTERNET USED TO BE A INTERNET OF US. NOW IT’S MACHINE TO MACHINE COMMUNICATIONS. AND THAT’S IOT. SO THOSE TYPE OF DEVICES ARE TYPICALLY NOT HIGH BAND WITH. THERE IS A LOT OF SMALL TALKING GOING BACK AND FORTH. THE NEEDS TO HAVE VERY LOW LATENCY OR DELAY. THAT’S WHAT IOT IS. ALL THE ROAD BEDS, THINGS I YOUR VEHICLES, IN YOUR HOUSE, ON YOUR WRIST.>>THANK YOU.>>I TRIED. I WILL SAY, WE ACTUALLY BOTH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING JUST HAD A MEETING WITH CONSULTANT THAT COMES IN, TALKING TO US ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT A CAR TO CAR AND CAR TO VEHICLE OR CAR TO SIGNAL TYPE OF COMMUNICATION SYSTEM AS PART OF THE INTERNET OF THINGS THAT WE’RE LOOKING FROM A TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT. SO IT’S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT IS BUILDING. ALL RIGHT, LET’S TALK ABOUT BUILDING FACILITIES. AND I’LL DO MY BEST TO BE BRIEF AND CONCISE. BUT THIS HAS THE MOST SLIDES IN IT. SO WE HAVE ABOUT 122 GENERAL FUND STRUCTURES. AND I SY STRUCTURES, STRUCTURES CAN BE ANYTHING FROM ANN ARBOR TO A SHADE STRUCTURE TO THE CITY HALL, AND PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. IT CAN BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AS YOU SEE, WE’VE GOT 29 OF THOSE THAT I CONSIDER CIVIC. MEANING THEY’RE THERE FOR GENERAL PURPOSES OR SOME TYPE OF GOVERNMENT ACTIVITIES. WE HAVE 16 THAT I IDENTIFIED AS PUBLIC SAFETY OR ANSLARY STRUCTURE. AND YOU’VE GOT 77 THAT ARE RECREATIONAL AND PARKS RELATED. ANYWHERE FROM PUBLIC RESTROOMS. I SAID ACTIVITIES SITES. WHEN I WROTE THAT DONE, MY FRIENDS AT REC AND PARKS SAID, HEY WHAT THE HECK IS IS THAT? IT’S LIKE THE ANIMAL BATHROOM, THE BARN HOUSE, THOSE FACILITIES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE PARK SITES. YOU CAN SEE IN THE GENERAL CIVIC SITE, WE HAVE THREE FACILITIES. WE HAVE A MUSEUM THAT IS A LEASED AND DAYCARE THAT IS LEASED AND COMMUNITY CENTER THAT IS LEASED. SO WE HAVE LEASED WITH DIFFERENT ENTITIES. WE’RE GOING TO GET INTO MORE DETAILS INTO THE END OF THIS. WE GOT SOME BUILDINGS THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR DEMOLITION. WE HAVE 17 LISTED UP HERE JUST BETWEEN THE SITES AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT, THIS P-3 INVESTMENT AND LOOKING INTO DIVESTING OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES. AND WE’LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT TOWARDS THE END AS WELL. ON THE ENTERPRISE FUND, THEY HAVE 47 STRUCTURE. WHETHER IT’S THE OFFICE BUILDINGS OR PUMP STAYSSING. THEY HAVE OTHER TYPES OF OPERATION FACILITIES SUCH AS THE TREATMENT PLAN AND CHEMICAL BUILDING. PARKING HAS THE FIVE HOUSING GARAGES. AND THEN TRANSIT HAS THREE PRIMARY FACILITIES THAT TRANSIT OPERATION BUILDING WHICH SITS OVER BY MSC NORTH. THE TRANSIT HUB WHICH. AND THEN OUR WASH STATION THAT SITS INSIDE OF A CORPORATION YARD. BUT I WANT TDAY LET YOU KNOW THAT THESE ARE ALL FACILITIES THAT, THAT WE THE CITY ARE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR, WHETHER IT’S GENERAL FUND OPERATION OR GENERAL FUND OPERATION. WE THE CITY ARE IN CHARGE OF THOSE. WHEN WE LOOK AT, WHEN WE LOOK AT, WHAT OUR ASSESSMENT SAID. SO AS, CITY MANAGER McGLEN SAID, WE CONDUCT AN ASSESSMENT BACK IN 2017. AND IT CAME BACK WITH A NUMBER OF PIECES OF INFORMATION. IT PRETTY MUCH STATED THAT WE HAD ABOUT HALF, ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, I’M SORRY, OUR TOTAL INVESTMENT CURRENTLY IS ABOUT 5 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR RELATE TO GO WHAT OUR BUILDING MAINTENANCE DOES. AND THAT’S ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. THAT’S THE CONTRACT BUDGETS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR H-FACTS SYSTEMS, OUR ELECTRICAL FOR EACH OF THE BUILDINGS, WE’RE BUYING WATER THAT IS ALL UNDER THAT TOTAL BUDGET. AS YOU SEE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SECTIONS UNDER MAINTENANCE THAT TAKE CARE OF THE BUILDINGS. I SHOWED THE CONSTRUCTION SECTION, THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY. THEY DON’T HAVE A SPECIFIC ROLE, THEY’RE BASICALLY AN INTERNAL CONTRACTOR. SO IF WE HAVE A JOB, WE HIRE THEM TO DO IT. THEY’RE THE ONE THAT’S ARE DOING YOUR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE. SO WE HAVE 8 EMPLOYEES. IF WE LOOK AT JUST THE 1300 STRUCTURES THAT WERE SURVEYED WITHIN THE ASSESSMENT, WE’RE DOING ABOUT 1-F-T PER 100 SQUARE FEET. SO WE’RE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT BEHIND BECAUSE OF WHAT THE STANDARD IS TYPICALLY STATED. WHEN WE LOOK AT HISTORICAL CAPITAL EXPENDITURE, WE’RE PUTTING ABOUT 1.7 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR OF ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT INTO OUR BUILDINGS. NOW, THIS PREDOMINANTLY CAME OUT OUT OF ABOUT 7 DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE CITY. MOST STRUCTURE WERE ABLE TO HANDLE WITHIN THE BUDGETS. BUT THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND.>>JUST FOR POINT OF CLARITY, WE’RE NOT INVESTMENTING WITH WHAT DIRECTOR MEANS. IS THAT HOW OVERTIME WE’VE TREATED OUR CAPITOL INVESTMENTS.>>THANK YOU.>>THIS WAS THE CRITERIA WE USED. AND PAVED THE ROADWAYS. WE’RE WE’RE TALKING ABOUT FACILITIES. THEY HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SCALE. PAVEMENT WAS 0 TO 100 WITH 100 BEING THE BEST. TOTAL CALCULATED DEFICIENCIES. SO HOW THAT’S THEY COME UP WITH WHAT THE FDIC SCORE IS. SO OUR AVERAGE FCI RIGHT NOW UNDER OUR CURRENT 113 STRUCTURES, I KNOW I SAID 122 PREVIOUSLY, THERE WAS A SERIES OF BUILDINGS THAT WE DIDN’T HAVE EVALUATED BECAUSE THEY WERE SCHEDULED FOR DEMOLITION OR WE ACQUIRED AFTER THE ASSESSMENT WAS UNDER WAY. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR 20-YEAR HORIZON. WE NEED TODAY SEE WHAT WE NEED TODAY DO IN THE INVESTMENT YEARS. YEAR ONE WAS IDENTIFIED AS 2017. IT DIDN’T INCLUDE ONE OF THE PARKING LOTS. IT WAS THE BUILDING FACILITY ITSELF. WHAT THEY DID WAS IDENTIFY 6 DIFFERENT PRIORITIES WITHIN THOSE. PRIORITY ONE, BEING CRITICAL. WE HAVE TO GO IN AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE IMMEDIATELY, WITH PRIORITY AND THINK ABOUT IT, PRIORITY 6, THEY SHOWED U ZERO HERE AS BEING NO ACTION. BECAUSE THINGS ARE IN GOOD CONDITION. IF WE LOOK AT JUST THE PRIORITY ONE. THE THINGS THAT THEY SAID WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IN 2017. WE HAVE 25.7 MILLION DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT. CODE UPGRADES, ROOF REPAIRS, H-VAC REPAIRS AND SOME ELECTRICAL SYSTEM ISSUES. IF WE ROM THAT OUT OVER THE 25-YEAR PERIOD THE WAY THE CONSULTANT SET UP FOR US, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF THE PRIORITIES THAT THEY PUT THESE IN AND THE TYPE OF FUNDING THAT THEY RECOMMEND. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DIRECT AND PROJECT VALUE ARE THE SOFT COST. SO THE FIVE-YEAR TTAL IS ABOUT 89 MILLION DOLLARS. BUT IF WE AD THE SOFT COST ROUGHLY 50% YOU’RE ABOUT 133 MILLION DOLLARS. IF YOU TAKE AND LOOK AT HOW THAT GRASPS OVER THE COURSE OF THE 25-YEAR PERIOD UNDER OUR CURRENT INVESTMENT, UNFORTUNATELY THAT GAP GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER. SO YOU TEE, I INCLUDEDED A BAR IN THERE WHAT A INFLATION YEAR OVER YEAR. AT OUR CURRENT RATE OF INVESTMENT OF ABOUT 300 THOUSAND A YEAR, YOU CAN SEE WHERE OR FACILITIES ARE TURN TO WHEN WE LOOK AT THEIR FACILITY CONDITION INDEX SCORE. WE HAVE MANY THAT ARE IN GOOD CONDITION. BUT AT OUR CURRENT LEVEL IF WE DON’T MAKE ANY CHANGES, BY YEAR 10 WE’RE IN THE OFFICE DIRECTION AD BY YEAR 20, EVERYTHING HAS SHIFTED INTO CRITICAL AND TO DIVEST. WHY BECAUSE WE’RE MAKING OUR PRODUCT BETTER. WE’RE ASKING CRITICAL QUESTIONS. WE’RE MAKING THEM DEVICE NEW PRODUCTS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE WITH OTHER FOLKS. SO THEY ACTUALLY CREATED A SPREADSHEET THAT ALLOWS US TO CALCULATE WHAT TYPE OF INVESTMENT WE NEED TO PUT IN PLACE IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE CERTAIN FACILITY CONDITION. AND THEY’VE GIVEN US A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAY TO SEE QUAER’ THAT. IT’S ACTUALLY A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE EXCEL SPREADSHEET THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER. AS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE ABOUT 300,000 PER CAPITOL BUDGET. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE RED ARROW WHERE THAT PTS US AT A 20-YEAR MARK AND WE PRETTY MUCH USE THAT FOR IMMINENT THINGS THAT BREAK TAT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE BROKEN. AND THAT’S WHERE WE END UP GOING. IF IT’S SOMETHING LARGER, WE HAVE TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL FOR SPECIFIC ACTION. THAT’S WHERE THE 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR OF HISTORICAL INVESTMENT HAS COME FROM BECAUSE WE’VE HAD TO COME TO COUNCIL OUTSIDE OF IT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE EVALUATION COMPANY UTILIZED ZERO. THEY UTILIZED PERFECT CONDITION AS THEIR TARGET. PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THEIR NORMAL CRITERIA. AND THAT RESULTED AT ABOUT A 5 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR OVER 20-YEAR INVESTMENT. SO STAFF, DETERMINED, WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO TRY TO ESTABLISH A TARGET SIMILAR TO WHAT WE’VE DONE TO ROADS. WHAT SHOULD WE BE LOOKING TOWARDS? TOWARDS. AND WE DETERMINED THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE BETTER PART OF THE CATEGORY WAS PROBABLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT, AND THAT’S WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO INVEST. SO WE EVALUATED A CI. WE RAN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MODELS. LET’S JUST PUT AND SAY, WE WANT EVERY YEAR TO HAVE AN FCI OF POINT 07. AND OVER THOSE 20 YEARS WE NEED TO INVEST ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO BRING THE FACILITIES UP TO THAT LEVEL AND SUSTAIN IT DURING THAT 20-YEAR PERIOD. BUT THEN WE SAID WHAT IF WE JUST WANTED ACHIEVE 0.7 THROUGH THA. WE NEED TO INVEST THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR OVER THAT 20-YEAR PERIOD. AND YOU SEE THAT AS A BLUE MARK. BY REPAIRING THE ROOF, WE REDUCE OUR 20-YEAR COST BY ABOUT 200 A YEAR. BUT I WE ELIMINATE THE 6 BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN THE P-3 PROJECTS FOR DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE WE HAVE ABOUT HALF OF WHAT OUR PROPOSED INVESTMENT WOULD BE. AND WE’RE GOING INTO MORE DETAILS ON THOSE.>>AND I WOULD LIKE TO AD THAT THIS IS ONE OF TE THINGS THAT RATING AGENCIES CONTINUE TO LOOK AT. IS ACTUALLY NEWLY LOOK AT IS THE HEALTH OF YOUR FACILITIES TO ESTABLISH YOUR BOND OVERALL BOND RATING. SO I JUST REMIND COUNCIL, THAT IT’S A DIRECT CONCERN FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OUR EMPLOYEES. BUT ALSO HAS, ULTIMATELY SOME FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS FOR YOU DOWN THE ROAD.>>SO WE DID MENTION EARLY ON THAT WE HAVE SOME LEASED AND LICENSED FACILITIES. WE TAUNGD ABOUT THAT WHEN WE BROUGHT FORWARD THE REPAIR FOR THE MAIN LIBRARY. AS WE MENTIONED AT THAT TIME, WE DON’T HAVE A CURRENT LEASE WITH THE LIBRARY WITH THE LIBRARY JPA. THERE ARE THREE BUILDINGS THAT WE MAINTAIN ON BEHALF OF LIBRARY. THEY OPERATE ALL THE FACILITIES INSIDE. AND WE WORKED WITH THEIR TEAM AS THEY PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT TYPE OF AGREEMENTS WE’VE HAD IN THE LAST. THE LAST AGREEMENT WAS IN 1996 WHICH TALKED ABOUT A CONTRIBUTION. IT WAS PART OF AN MOU THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A TEN-YEAR M.O. U. AND WE, WE FEEL THAT HAVING SOME TYPE OF LEASE MOVING FORWARD OR SOME TYPE OF OPERATING AGREEMENT, COULD BE A VERY GOOD THING IN THE FUTURE. AS YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF INVESTMENT HAS BEEN PUT INTO LIBRARY IN PARTICULAR THE LIBRARY OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS. AND ALL AND ALL, THIS FACILITIES IS IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION WITH THE NORTHWEST LIBRARY BEING THE OLDEST FACILITIES AND THE ONE THAT WILL NEED THE MOST WORK IN COMING YEARS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A LEASE WITH SONOMA COUNTY MUSEUM FOR TE POST OFFICE SITE OFF OF 7th STREET. AS WELL AS, PAINTING THE WALLS TO FACILITATE THEIR NEEDS FOR THEIR DISPLAYS. OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE REMAINER OF THE WORK IS DONE BY THE CITY. THIS IS ONE OF THE BILDINGS THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING SOME FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, OUR LEASE SAYS THE TENANT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 100% OF THE MAINTENANCE. AND THEY WILL COME TO US AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE WILL INVEST MUTUALLY. SIMILARLY WITH A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH LAND PATHS OVER IN THEIR MAYBED, THEY HAVE A LICENSED TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE GARDENS OUT THERE AS WELL AS THE BARN. ANY CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT THERE NEEDS THE APPROVAL OF CITY STAFF BEFORE THEIR ABLE TO PROCEED. BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT’S DONE APPROPRIATELY INTO OUR STANDARDS AND PES FICKATIONS. AND–SPECIFICATION. AND THEN LASTLY IS THE GOLF COURSE AND RESTAURANT. TWO PROPRIORITOR, ONE NA MANAGES THE GOLF AND ONE LEGENDS, THE RESTAURANT. IN BOTH CASES, THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PLAIN TAINING THE BUILDING, THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND MAJOR BUILDING COMPONENTS AND THE OPERATORS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. AND TO DATE, THAT HAS SEEMINGLY GONE FAIRLY SMOOTH. AS BOTH BUILDINGS ARE ACTUALLY IN FAIRLY NEW CONDITION AND IN GOOD SHAPE. THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF, THE PROPRIORTOR. SO LAST JUNE, COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECT TO LOOK AT THE SERIES OF BUILDINGS. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY RESULTING FROM THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT. AND WHAT IT DETERMINED WAS THAT, 25 STRUCTURES WOULD BE SET UP TO BE REMOVED FROM OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND ALL OF TOSE FACILITIES ARE IN FAILING OR IN FAILED CONDITION CURRENTLY. AND, SO WE’VE MADE A DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. ALL OF THESE WILL BE COMING AND ADDRESSED THIS SUMMER AND THE CONTRACT IS FORTHCOMING TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. WE’VE ALSO BEEN GIVEN THE APPROVAL DURING THE SAME SESSION TO LOOK AT HAVING NINE BUILDINGS RELATED TO THE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM. SO, RECENTLY WE’VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE P-3. BACK IN JANUARY, DIRECTOR GUIN AND MYSELF PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP LOOKED LIKE AND HOW THAT IMPACTED THE CURRENT STATE OF THE FACILITIES. WHAT WE IDENTIFIED WAS 95 BUILDINGS THAT WE WERE INTERESTED AND IN INCORPORATING INTO THAT PROCESS. AND PART OF THE RATIONAL IS THAT THE PRIORITY ONE, THE PRIORITY ONES BUILDINGS FOR THESE BUILDINGS WERE SIGNIFICANT IN THE 8.3 MILLION DOLLARS RANGE. BUT WE ALSO HAD ADA IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE REQUIRED. IT WAS DONE INTERNALLY WITH STAFF FOLLOWING OUR TRANSITION PLAN DEVELOPMENT. WE EVALUATED ABOUT 10 MILLIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE THREE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET. AS THAT CONTRACTOR IS ABOUT TO COME ON BOARD SO. WHEN WE LOOK AT REMOVING THESE STRUCTURES FROM FOR WHAT THE VALUE OF WHAT THE STRUCTURES ARE BASED ON THE FACILITIES CONDITION INDEX, WE EVALUATE THAT OUR ANNUAL INVESTMENT SHOULD BE ABOUT 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS THESE PROPERTIES AND WE WOULD ASSUME THAT AS WE MOVE ON TO MAKING FURTHER EVALUATIONS WITH OUR PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, THAT THEY WOULD UTILIZE THIS 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR OF INVESTMENT THAT WOULD BE TRANSFERABLE INTO A NEW BUILDING RELATE TO GO ITS ON GOING MAINTENANCE. AND THEN THE LAST RELATES TO JAMES STRATEGY. WE TRIED TO PRESENT THIS AS CLOSE TO CURRENT INFORMATION AS WE CAN. WHICH IS HOUSING COMMUNITY SERVICES HAS PRESENTED THIS AS A GRANT PROPOSAL. WE’RE STILL EVALUATING THAT GRANT PROPOSAL AS DIRECTOR McBRIDE AND CITY MANAGER STATED EARLIER. WE THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS LEFT OF THAT WAS PRESENTED BACK IN 2017, OR 2016 THAT WE BELIEVE TO BE AN OPTIMAL OPTION ASSUMING WE DON’T COME TO FINAL RESOLUTION ON THE STATE HEAT FUNDS THAT COULD HELP US TO RESTORE AND REBUILD THE SAM JONES ROOF IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT FACILITY FUNCTIONAL INTO THE FUTURE. IN ADDITIONAL THEY HAVE PROVIDED WITH THE AUTHORIZATION OF LOOKING INTO HOW TO PUT A RFP TOGETHER AND THE ADJACENT RECREATION ANNEX FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE INTENT IS THAT WILL HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT LATER THIS SUMMER AND THAT WILL BE PREPARED AND LOOKED AT A STREET SO WE CAN LOOK AT HOUSING FOR STRATEGIES. SO, THAT IS THE LAST PIECE OF THE BUILDING FACILITIES COMPONENT. BUT IT’S A CRITICAL PIECE FOR US RIGHT NOW. AND THEN JUST SUMMARIZING ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE I KNOW I’VE TAKEN AN HOUR OF YOUR TIME TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS SORT OF ROLL UP ABOUT WHAT EACH OF THOSE DEFICIENCIES FROM A FUNDING STAND POINT LOOK LIKE WITH WHAT WILL LOOK LIKELY BE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO INVEST IN BUILDING FACILITIES. HOW TO INCORPORATE THAT 3.5 MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY TO BEGIN TO START BRINGING UP THE FACILITIES THAT NOT ONLY WE PROVIDE TO THE PUBLIC TO UTILIZE BUT THAT WE PROVIDE A CIVIC ABILITIES AND TO THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY. THAT COULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION OF ALL OF THESE. WILL BE THE BUILDING FASIS COMPONENT THAT WE’RE GOING FOB ASKING TO YOU FUND. AND ALSO FURTHERS OUR TIER 1 INVESTMENT AND WE THAT’S A STRONG STARTING POINT TO MOVE FORWARD. AND AS CHUCK AND I HAVE JOKED ABOUT, WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE WITH INVESTMENT TO BRINGING OUR FACILITIES UP TO GOOD CONDITION.>>THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION, COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS?>>COULD YOU CLARIFY ON SLIDE 34 AND I THINK I MAY HAVE ASKED ABOUT THIS THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT FACILITIES. THAT BURBANK AVENUE? IS THAT NOT?>>BURBANK RESIDENTS? WHIES IT’S BURBANK IN AVENUE.>>PERHAPS THAT SLIDE SHOULD BE CORRECTED. SO JUST SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WE’RE NOT GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE HOUSE.>>YOU MEAN THE PLACE ACROSS THE STREET.>>LOOKING AT THE SUMMARY AND I ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE INTEREST WITH STARTING WITH OUR FACILITIES. IT’S LIKE THE AIRPLANE ANALOGY WHERE YOU PUT YOUR MASK ON AND THEN YOU CAN HELP THE OTHER PERSON PUT THEIR MASK ON. BUT I’M CONCERNED ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON OUR RESIDENTS IF WE’RE NOT DOING ROADS AND PARKS AND THE IMPACT ON OUR ECONOMICS IF WE DON’T HAVE DO THE TELECOM DIGITAL. I THINK THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT. AT WHAT POINT, DO WE TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE’RE NOT DOING PARKS, ROADS AND TELECOMMUNICATION?>>SO ONE OF THE THINGS AS, I DON’T WANT TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE WE’RE NOT DOING IT AS YOU HEARD, WE HAVE A GRAND OPPORTUNITY ESPECIALLY AROUND TELECOM AND DIGITAL THAT WE’RE GING TO TRY TO FUND. I I BELIEVE, THIS IS THE STARTING POINT. WHERE DO WE START WHERE WE NOW GO AND DO SOME THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IS REFERENCING. THIS GIVES US A STARTING POINT TO DO SOME OF THAT ENGAGEMENT AND ASK SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. I WOULD ALSO SAY ABOUT THAT. IT SETS UP ABOUT THE PARKS AND CONVERSATION. THAT THERE IS A RESOURCE THAT NOW WE CAN GT INTO COUNCIL AND HOW ABOUT WE PLAN TO RESOURCE. WE KNOW THAT THIS IS ANNUAL DEFINITITY AROUND THE FACILITIES. BUT WE DO ACTUALLY DONOUGH THAT THERE IS A RESOURCE T BEGIN APPLICATION ON THAT EVENT HORIZON. I WOULD SAY, ROADWAYS AND BRIDGES CONDITIONS, THERE ARE SOME RESOURCES THAT ARE INVESTED THERE. AND I THINK THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONING THAT WE’RE GOING TO NEED TO DO. THIS IS THE STARTING POINT OF THAT CONVERSATION AND YOU KNOW, WE’RE TRYING TO FIT THAT INTO THIS SORT OF TIER 1 PRIORITIES AND LOOKING AT DOWNTOWN, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES. THIS IS POTENTIALLY WITH DR FUNDING HANGING ON THE HORIZON. THE COUNCIL HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS. THIS IS SORT OF FLLOWING COUNCIL’S DIRECTIVE ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH THIS PROBLEM AND PRESENT YOU WITH OPPORTUNITIES. OPPORTUNITIES TAT WE KNOW EXIST AROUND CITY ASSETS THAT ARE GOING TO BE EVOLVING CONVERSATION THIS SUMMER AS WE GO THROUGH IT AND WE STARTED THE WORK ON THE P-3 PROCESS. AND PRESENT MULTI FAMILY SOLUTIONS AND CORRESPOND ENDING INFRASTRUCTURE. I KNOW THAT’S PART OF THE DEAL WITH–AND WE’RE CLOSELY FOLLOWING WHAT IS GOING ON IN SACRAMENTO WHICH WOULD SUPPORT SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ESPECIALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. BUT WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A CORRESPONDING CONVERSATION FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE ABOUT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT TWO TO FOUR YEARS. AND BUILDING A STRATEGY. NOW THAT WE KNOW WHERE THE DEFICIT IS? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO GIVE YOU THE COMMUNITY YOU WANT MOVING FORWARD?>>MY. THANK YOU. AND MY CONCERN HAS TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTS HERE. BECAUSE WHILE THEY MAY NOT SELECT PARKS AS THEIR TOP FUNDING ITEM. I SEE TIME AND TIME, PARKS IS NOT LISTED AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY THE PARK THEY USE, THEY LOVE TO DEATH. AND THEY WANT IT MAINTAINED. AND ROADWAYS ARE SIMILAR. I ASSUME THE OTHERS GET A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT ROAD QUALITY. QUITE OFTEN IT’S NOT CTY ROADS THAT WE DISCOVER. SO I’M INTERESTED IN HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING IN 2012, I HAPPEN TO TALK WITH SOMEBODY FROM 101 MANUFACTURING. AND I ASKED WHAT HIS BIGGEST CONCERN WAS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND HE ANSWERED ROADS. BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A PRIMARY ECONOMIC GENERATOR IS OUR DESIGN OF MEASUREMENT INSTRUMENTS. AND I A MEASUREMENT INSTRUMENT GOES DOWN THE ROAD JIGGLING, IT DOES NOT ARRIVE AS A GOOD INSTRUMENT. SO THEY WERE AWARE OF THE MANUFACTURING PROCESSES. I’M EXCITE BESIDE WHAT WE CAN DO DOWNTOWN AND WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE.>>ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>ONE MORE QUESTION?>>THANK YOU. YOU HAVE SANTA ROSA AS A GETTING A C ON YOUR SLIDES. I WANT TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY INFORMATION FROM THE UNITED STATES OR STATE OF CALIFORNIA?>>I’M NOT SURE THAT THEY EVALUATE THOSE PKZ. FACILITIES COULD BE DETERMINED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. SO THAT’S WHY I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING FROM THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING FROM COMPARABLE CITIES. WE’RE JUST LOOKING AT INTERNALLY ON OUR OWN. AND OUR MAINTENANCE ASPECT. WE HEARD THAT WE SHOULD BE SET AGO SIDE 3% OF OUR TOTAL VALUE ANNUALLY. WE GAUGE HOW MUCH EMPLOYEES WE SHOULD HAVE HAVE. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE TRIED TO UTILIZE TO DETERMINE HOW WE’RE DOING BY COMPARISON TO OTHERS.>>OKAY, THANK YOU.>>SO THAT CONCLUDES TODAY’S PART OF THE PRESENTATION. TOMORROW BEGINS WITH PREALIGNMENT AND WE’LL START TO WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET.>>SO THAT WILL BE FROM THE FIRST SLIDE START WITHING SLIDE 28?>>THAT’S CORRECT. SO WE WILL BE RECESSING THIS SESSION TO RECONVENE AT 9:00 O’CLOCK TOMORROW. AND WE’LL TAKE A BREAK AND RESTART AT 4:00 O’CLOCK FOR THE START OF OUR CITY COUNCIL SESSION. THANK YOU. MAY 21, 2019. PLEASE STAND BY MAY 21, 2019. PLEASE STAND BY FOR CITY OF SANTA ROSA, CITY COUNCIL MEETING. …>>[GAVEL]>>OKAY WE’LL OPEN THE MAY 21 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR SESSION MEETING. MADAM DEPUTY CITY CLERK. ANNOUNCE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE.>>LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL COUNCILMEMBERS ARE PRESENT.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM CITY ATTORNEY? A REPORT.>>THE COUNCIL MET IN CLOSED SESSION ON ITEMS 2.1. WE HAVE TWO LISTS AS 2.1 AND 2.2. SO WE DID DISCUSS THE ITEMS. AND ON EACH THEY DID GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF.>>MR. MANAGER WOULD YOU LIKE TO REPORT ON THE SESSION.>>ONLY THAT IT WILL CONTINUE TOMORROW MORNING AT 9:00 AM.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PROCLAMATIONS. NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.>>THIS IS A GREAT ONE. NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, CAN I HAVE JASON, KRISTEN LOPEZ, BECKMAN AND JOHN METIGALUS. DID YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE WHO THEY ARE.>>SO T.J. WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS SIDE. JOHN IS WITH UTILITY SERVICE WORKER IN SAN LOUIS WATER. AND KRISTEN LOPEZ IS OUR GROUNDS KEEPER IN OUR PARKS REC.>>THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WHERE AS MAY 21, MARKS THE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK AND WHERE PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR CITIZENS EVERY DAY LIVES. AND WHERE AS PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS BUILD AND MAINTAIN FACILITY THAT ARE VITAL IMPORTANCE AS WELL A TO PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND TO THE WELL BEING TO THE PEOPLE OF SANTA ROSA. AND WHERE AS THESE FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITH WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PROFESSIONALS, ENGINEERING, MANAGERS AND ADMINISTRATOR ALL OF THEM SERVE AS FIRST RESPONDERS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPROVING AD PROTECTING OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND WATER AND SEWER AND OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE ESSENTIAL SEE TO SERVING OUR CITIZENS. WHERE AS EACH DAY, PUBLIC WORKS PERSONNEL UNDER CALLENGES TRAFFIC CIRCUMSTANCES TO KEEP THEMSELVES MOTORCYCLISTS, BICYCLIST AND PEDESTRIANS SAFE WHILE NECESSARY WORK IS DONE TO MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC INPHA SFRUK TOUR AND ROADWAY SYSTEM. AND WHERE A IT’S IN THE INTEREST OF CHILDREN AND CITIZENS TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF AND MAINTAIN A PROGRESS INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAMS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHERE AS, WE HONOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS ENGINEERS ADMINISTER ALONGSIDE THE AGENCY AND PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION THROUGH ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS TO RECOGNIZE THE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THEY MAKE TO PROTECTING OUR HEALTH, SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE, NOW. THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SAN ROSE ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL PRO CLAIMS MAY 19th THROUGH MAY 25, 2019 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. CAN ALL THE PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE HERE STAND UP. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU.>>SO I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THESE THREE FOR COMING DOWN AND ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION. THERE ARE MANY OF US, JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE ONE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE’RE THE ONLY ONE THAT’S DO PUBLIC WORKS. THAT’S WHY SANTA ROSA WATER AND RECREATION AND PARKS ARE ALSO HERE. SO THERE IS, THE PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS, WE’RE REALLY HERE TO SUPPORT. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SO MANY OF US ARE IN THE AUDIENCE. I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT TOMORROW EVENING. WE HAVE A WATER SMART EXPO AS WELL AS EXPO OUT WITH THE WEDNESDAY NIGHT MARKET AND WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT TIME. YOU’LL GET A CHANCE T SEE SMFT GREAT WORKS THAT WE DO, CLIMB ABOARD SOME OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND SEE OUR EMPLOYEES IN ACTION AS TO WHAT THEY DO AND TALK TO THEM. COME ON OUT AND ENJOY THAT DAY WITH US.>>THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] MR. TIBBETTS.>>THIS PROCLAMATION IS FOR MITCHELL CHAVEZ, OVER IN THE CREDO PLACE APARTMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. WHERE AS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ONE OF THE CORNER STONES OF DEMOCRACY AND WHERE AS COMMUNITIES DRIVE WHEN ALL FAMILIES HAVE A PLACE TO CALL HOME. AND WHERE AS EACH YEAR THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES STRUG GLE TO FIND AN AFFORDABLE HOME ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLACES. AND THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA COMMITTED TO STABLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS AND THE STRENGTH AND ECONOMY DEPENDS ON PROVIDING ACCESS TO HOUSING OPTION THAT ALLOW CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS OF ALL CURRENT LEVELS AND ETHNICITY TO LIVE WHERE THEY WORK. AND WHERE AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEAR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS REDUCES TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND LOWERS HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION COSTS FOR LOCAL WORKERS. WHERE AS ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH SANTA ROSA ARE DEDICATE TODAY SAFE AND PERMANENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND COLLABORATIVELY WORKING TO BRING THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE FOR FRONT OF DISCUSSION IN SANTA ROSA. AND WHERE AS THEY’RE TO PARTNER TO RECOGNIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WEEK WHICH SUPPORTS THE SHARING OF BEST PRACTICES AND SOLUTION TO SEE PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS THE RIGHT OF ALL INDIVIDUALS AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE THEY’RE OF THE CITY SANTA ROSA PROCLAIM THIS WEEK AFFORDABLE HOUSING WEEK. [APPLAUSE]>>I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR RECOGNIZING HOW IMPORTANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]>>OKAY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CARDS ON THE ITEMS. FIRST IS DUANE DEWITT FOLLOWED BY COLEEN.>>AT THE TIME THAT THEY GOT THE PROCLAMATION AND THAT WOULD SEEM THE WAY THE ORDER AGENDA. 6.1, THE BEST TIME T THANK THE WORKERS IS RIGHT WHEN THEY’RE HERE AND RIGHT WHEN IT HAPPENS. WE SHOULD NOT GIVE THEM A HAND, WE SHOULD GIVE THEM A RAISE. WE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO HOW THEY ARE MRE THAN THE BACKBONE THE WAY THE CITY OPERATES. THEY’RE THE ONES THAT KEEP THE PARKS AND THE ROADS NICE. IT’S NOT MIDDLE MANAGEMENT, IT’S NOT FOLKS AT THE TOP. IT’S THOSE FOLKS DOING THE REAL WORK THAT CAN MAKE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER OR MAKE IT A BLIGHT. AND I WANT TO SAY, I THANK THESE GENTLEMAN, WHOEVER IS LEFT. THEY DON’T KNOW ME FROM SQUAT, BUT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY I KNOW THEM BECAUSE THEY MAKE IT BETTER. AND THE PARKS CAN FALL, AND THEY HAVE BECAUSE THEY’VE BEEN CUTTING BACK ON GROUNDS KEEPERS AND STAFFING AND MAINTENANCE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED. PLEASE DON’T DO THAT ANYMORE. DURING THESE BUDGET HEARINGS, GIVE THEM MORE. GIVE THEM A RAISE, GIVE THEM RECOGNITION THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS MORE THAN A PIECE OF PAPER THAT THEY CAN PUT IN THEIR RESUME. SOMETHING THAT GOES INTO THE PAYCHECK PACKAGE, THAT’S THE REAL DEAL. SECONDARY TO THAT, BECAUSE I SIGNED UP FOR 6.2, I SHOULD GET EXTRA TIME PERIOD. THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. YOU FOLKS HAVE BEEN HAVING A BIT OF A CAVALIER DISREGARD FOR THE BROWN ACT AND HOW THINGS WORK. BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD 2500 HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE. I KNOW THAT YOU CAN SAVE SOME RIGHT NOW. THE CITY OWNS SOME HOUSES. A COTTAGE, A CARE TAKERS COTTAGE AT HOWARD’S PARK, AND A WOMAN THAT USED TO LIVE THERE POINTED OUT GREAT IT WAS. AND THAT WAS ANOTHER STRUCTURE. BUY IT CAN TAXPAYERS MONEY AND WE CAN SAVE THEM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WEEK. LET’S SAY YES, LET’S HOLD ON TO THESE. WE CAN MAKE IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WOULD LIKE TO BE FOR VETERANS. WE CAN USE HUD VOUCHERS THAT COME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BE PAYING IN TO THE SYSTEM. SO IT WOULD NOT COST YOU MORE. THOSE HOMES AS THEY SIT RIGHT NOW. YOU SAY, THEY’RE NOT A ASSET, ONLY BECAUSE A PART OF A CITY WITHOUT ENOUGH WORK IRZ. I HAVE AN IDEA, HW ABOUT YOU DO THIS. OFFER THEM OFF TO THE NON PROFITS. GET THEM BOUGHT FOR A BUCK OR TWO AND HAVE THEM MOVE TO THE CITY OWNED LAND ON STONEY POINT ROAD, WHERE YOU TORE DOWN HOUSES TO WIDEN THE ROAD. WE CAN PUT THOSE HOUSE NZ THERE AND WE’LL HAVE A BETTER ROSE LAND, THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU. COLEEN.>>LUCKY TO HAVE DYANE DEWITT, GIVING YOU SO MUCH ADVISE. IF ONLY YOU WERE LISTENING TO TO HIM AND I. COLEEN, I’M HERE. IT’S JUST AS HARD TO BE HERE AS IT IS TO NOT BE HERE. ONE OF YOUR MOST UNUSUAL KWASI HOMELESS PERSON. SO THIS VERY BROENG, VERY HURTING, BLEEDING HEART, IS HERE IN YOUR HOME. YOUR CHAMBERS ARE MY HOME RIGHT NOW. AND I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY, SHARING BEST PRACTICES IS WHAT THIS, ACCOMMODATION RECOMMENDATION, PROCLAMATION IS FOR WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THAT’S SOMETHING I DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK WHEN WE LOOKED AT SUSTAIN ABILITIES? AFTER 9/11 WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? FIRST HVE YOU TO AD THE WORD ADAPTABLE, BEST PRACTICES BECAUSE THEY CHANGE. WHICH IS WHY I WANT YOU TO PAY ME AS A KWASI HOMELESS PERSON TO HELP YOU DEVELOP THE TINY HOUSE BUILDING AND CHALLENGING THE CREDIT UNION. WHERE IS YOUR TINY HOME. AND LIKE IN THE VILLAGES? BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH CHALLENGES LIKE ME NEED OUR OWN SPACE. HERE IS IRONY ALERT WHEN I HAD A HOME, IT WAS MY RENTAL, I MADE 144,000 DOLLARS INTO A CONDO THAT WOOSE 11,000 PAID OFF OVER THE COURSE OF 8 YEARS. AND THEN I WAS CHALLENGING THE FRICKIN’ CITY TO KEEP UP WITH THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA. BECAUSE YOU WERE ON TO JUST CAUSE EVICTION. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, MY TWO-BEDROOM CONDO IT WAS M DEAD DAUGHTER’S BEDROOM THAT I CAN GO IN AND FEEL HER SPIRIT AND COMFORTED. GOT TAKEN AWAY FROM ME FOR A LOT OF CORRUPT REASONS. BUT NOW MY BEST NEXT BEST WAS THE PERSON THAT INSULTED ME AND GET HIF TO GET A TINY HOME LOAN FOR ME. I’M ON THE BALLOT FOR U.S. SENATE. HE ASSAULTED ME THE ONE THAT OWNS TWO THIRD. SO I DID THE MEXICAN STAND ORDER, YOU WANT ME TO LEAVE, GIVE ME MY 5 GRAND. AND THERE WAS HELP FOR THE FOUR DEAD HORSES. ONE OF THEM WAS IN THE MUD AT THE VET, AT THE ANNIVERSARY OF MY DAUGHTER’S MURDER. I WANTED A TINY HOME MODEL TURNING THE MANURE INTO FOOD. WHEN HE WAS ASSAULTING ME, I THREW MY ORGANIC STRAWBERRIES. I WANT TO GET TO WORK REBUILDING THAT WITH YOU.>>ITEM NUMBER 7.>>I JUST HAVE ONE UPDATE. WE’RE REALLY EXCITED THAT FOLKS ARE MOVING BACK INTO THEIR HOMES. WE HAVE 316 COMPLETED AS OF TODAY. I DO HAVE A MESSAGE THAT I NEED TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE, HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE REOCCUPYING THEIR HOMES BEFORE THEY HAVE AUTHORIZATION TO DO SO. I NEED A REMIND THE PUBLIC AND IF THOSE FOLKS IN THE REBUILDING PROCESS THAT I CAN SEE WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION IS UNSAFE. THE BUILDING DIVISION AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAVE NOT CNFIRMED ALL ELEMENTS OF CONSTRUCTION ARE COMPLETED AND THE BUILDING IS SAFE TO OCCUPY. THOSE FOLKS CHOOSE TO GO DO SO, THREATEN TO PUT THEIR INSURANCE COVERAGE IN JEOPARDY AND ANY DAMAGE AND INCIDENTS THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE BEFORE THIS WITH R LIKELY TO BE DEPOSITED. AND OFTEN THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE PAYING FOR REBUILD TYPICALLY REQUIRE TICKETS OF OCCUPANCY. SO WE REALLY URGE FOLKS TO REACH OUT TO OUR REBUILT PERMIT CENTER IN THIS COMPLEX IN ROOM 6 OR CALL 707-543-4649 AND PLEASE DO NOT OCCUPY PRIOR TO RECEIVING YOUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER’S REPORT? NOTHING TO REPORT.>>CITY ATTORNEY.>>AND I ALSO HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT THIS AFTERNOON.>>STATEMENT BY COUNCILMEMBERS? DO WE HAVE ANY?>>LET’S START WITH MR. TIBBETTS.>>I’M GOING TO OBTAIN FROM APRIL 2 MINUTES DUE TO ABSENCE.>>ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHERS.>>I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THE SAME MEET ING MINUTES.>>AND MR. OLIVARES.>>I’LL BE OBTAINING.>>MR. OLIVARES?>>I WANT TO REPORT THAT STAFF ATTENDED THE GAY PREVENTION INTERVENTION IN LONG BEACH A LITTLE BIT OVER 900 ATTENDEES, MANY FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY ATTENDED THIS GREAT CONFERENCE. AND ALSO TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF A CHECK IN ON HOW WE’RE DOING HERE LOCALLY COMPARING US AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE EFFORTS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE STATE, AND WE’RE DOING PRETTY DARN GOOD AD APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT OUR PARTNER IS DOING HERE IN SANTA ROSA AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND HELPING TO BUILD A SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY.>>THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? SEEING NONE. ALL RIGHT, LET’S MOVE ON.>>WE MOVE TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES. WE HAVE THREE AB AB TENSION? ANY CORRECTIONS? WE’LL ACCEPT THOSE AS SUBMITTED. 11/2 IS THE APRIL SECOND MEETING MINUTES. ANY CORRECTIONS OR UPDATES? SEEING NONE, WE’LL ACCEPT THOSE. AND THEN I KNOW ON THE ITEM 11/13 THE ADJOURNING MEETING TIME I PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION TO THE CITY CLERK SO THAT THAT’S BEEN REFLECTIVE AS THE APPROPRIATE TIME. ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS? OKAY WE HAVE THOSE ACCEPTED. CONSENT ITEMS?>>YES, ITEM 12.1 RESOLUTION WITH U.S. BANK NATIONAL ASSOCIATION. ITEM 12.2 RESOLUTION. RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF CITY OF SANTA ROSA WAVING THE PROCEDURE AND COUNCIL POLICY 600-01 IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY IN APPROVING THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH METROPOLITAN GROUP FOR PLANNING AGENCY STAFF CONTRACT SERVICES. ITEM 12.3 ORDINANCE SECOND READING, ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF CITY OF SANTA ROSA AMENDING ITEM 20 RECLASSIFICATION OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1250 MENTCINO AVENUE. 180-590-004 TO THE CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL DISTRICT FILE NUMBER RE Z–19-002.>>COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I DO HVE A COUPLE OF CARDS. MR. HUBERTY?>>HOW ARE YOU? SO, IT’S RECOMMENDED BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. YET THAT WE, APPROVE A CUSTODY AGREEMENT WITH THE U.S. BANK NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR INSTITUTIONAL CUSTODY SERVICES. NOW, I’M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A SHOT IN THE DARK AND SAY THAT WHAT THEY WILL HAVE CUSTODY OF IS PUBLIC MONEY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I’M GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER STAB IN THE DARK HERE, AND SAY THAT THE U.S. BANK NATIONAL ASSOCIATION IS NOT VERY CLEARLY A BANK. RIGHT? IT’S AN ASSOCIATION OF NATIONAL BANK. WHAT IT’S NOT, IS CLEAR. WITH HOW IT’S GOING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND WITH THE PUBLIC WANTS TO DO WITH ITS MONEY. AND HOW THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO RECEIVE A RETURN ON THE MONEY THAT WAS TAKEN FROM IT. IN EXCHANGE FOR CIVIC SERVICES? RIGHT? NOW W JUST HAD AFFORDABLE HOUSING WEEK. I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT. YOU KNOW, WE’VE HAD A HOMELESS THREE-YEAR HOMELESS EMERGENCY. I DON’T KNOW IF ONE WEEK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GOING TO TIP THE SCALE THE WAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE TIPPED FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE. RIGHT? BUT INSTEAD AND IMAGINARY WEEK WHERE NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENS TO BETTER THE SITUATION OF ANYBODY WHO NEEDS TO LIVE SOMEWHERE, WE CAN DO ACTUALLY, AND INSTEAD OF APPROVING THIS VAGUE AGREEMENT WITH SOMETHING THAT IS A BANK MAYBE, WE COULD HAVE A PUBLIC BANK. LIKE THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY VERY VERY VERY CLEARLY WANTS TO YOU DO. ALL RIGHT. VERY CLEARLY WANTS TO YOU DO. NOT ONLY DO WE COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU ABOUT IT. I DON’T RECALL A SINGLE PERSON COMING UP HERE AND SAYING, IF THERE IS AN ASSOCIATION OF THE BANKS CAN YOU GIVE THEM ALL THE MONEY AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART, NOT PROVIDE ME WITH SERVICES. I DON’T THINK ANYBODY HAS SAID THAT AND ALL OF YOU KNOW IT. WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, THIS IS WE’RE NOT ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE CLOUD. WE’RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS WELL DEFINED CIVIC INSTITUTION THAT EXIST IN MANY PLACES PRODUCES FIDUCIARY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS AN OBLIGATION TO COMPLY. WITH YOUR GIVING OUR MONEY, YOU’RE WASTING OUR MONEY. YOU’RE GIVING IT TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT EARNED IT AND DON’T DESERVE AND NOT GOING TO SPEND IT ON US. ALL RIGHT. THAT HAS GOT TO CHANGE BECAUSE WE SAID TO. AND THAT’S HOW A DEMOCRACY WORKS. YOU DO WHAT WE SAY? WE DON’T COME HERE AND LISTEN TO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH OUR MONEY. ENOUGH IMAGINATION, LET’S DO SOMETHING ACTUAL. THANK YOU.>>DID YOU HAVE COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE 12.2 AND 12.3?>>YES.>>WHY DON’T YOU WRAP THOSE UP ALSO.>>[LAUGHTER] WILL DO MY MAN. LET’S RESET THE CLOCK. LET’S GET 12.2 HERE. SO WE’RE WAVING COMPETITIVE SELECTION PROCEDURES, YEAH? IT’S A RECOMMENDATION OF PLANNING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. NOW, I DON’T KNOW WHAT WE’RE PLANNING FOR EXACTLY. UNLESS IT’S TO WAVING REQUIREMENTS LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE. I FEEL IF WE’RE WAVING REQUIREMENTS WE’RE NOT PLANNING VERY WELL? IF THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT THAT WE WERE GOING TO PAY THEM WAS 100,000, RIGHT? AND WE’RE INCREASING COMPENSATION, NO NO NO, WE’RE INCREASING COMPENSATION FOR NOT TO EXCEED 700,000. I FEEL LIKE IF WE’RE PLAN TO GO DEVELOP A ECONOMY, WE SHOULD PROBABLY, KNOW WHAT WE’RE GOING TO PAY PEOPLE. THIS IS THE THIRD AMENDMENT. AND THIS IS A REGULAR. THIS IS A REGULAR OCCURRENCE. RIGHT? AND IT’S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE TOOLS TO PROSECUTE DICT HOW MUCH IT’S CONTRACTS GOING TO COST IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. WE’RE NOT JUST, OH NO, I GUESS WE BETTER AMEND IT. I THINK WHAT YOU THINK, IS THAT WE’RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. THAT WE DON’T KNOW THAT YOU’RE HANDING OUR MONEY AWAY. YOU WANT TO BURY AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT’S THIS INNOCUOUS THING. WE’RE DIGGING IT UP. WE’RE SICK OF IT. OKAY. AND YOU CAN MAKE IT AS BORING AND AS NEEDLE IN THE HAY STACK AS YOU WANT TO MAKE IT. AND IT DOES NOT MATTER, THAT’S NOT GOING TO STOP US ANYMORE. IT’S NOT GOING TO STOP US ANYMORE. WE’RE HIP TO THE FACT. THIS IS A CRIME. OKAY. THIS IS A CRIME. ALL RIGHT, AND IF IT’S NOT A CRIME. I MEAN, TELL ME WHAT A CRIME IS. ALL RGHT, WE’RE OUT HERE GETTING HAUNTED BY POLICE. YOU MAKE A TURN WITHOUT A SIGNAL, IT’S GOING TO COST YOU A PROPORTION OF YOUR INCOME THAT IS NINE TIMES OF WHAT MATTERS TO YOU. THIS MONEY IS NOTHING TO YOU. YOU’RE HANDING OUT HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF OUR MONEY LIKE WE’RE NOT SUFFERING. IT’S YUR JOB TO PROVIDE US WITH SERVICES AND TO BE A GOVERNMENT AND ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL NEED. RIGHT? AND PODUCE THE CIVIC INSTITUTION THAT’S PROVIDE FOR THOSE NEEDS. THAT’S WHAT A SOCIETY IS. AND THE MORE YOU DON’T DO THAT, THE MORE THIS SOCIETY COLLAPSES. AND THE MORE YOU DON’T PRESIDE OVER THAT COLLAPSE, YOU DRIVE THIS SOCIETY INTO THE GROUND, RIGHT. AND YOU DON’T GET TO DO THAT. YOU DON’T GET TO DO THAT. IT’S ENOUGH. 12.3, [LAUGHTER] WELL WHAT DO YOU WANT? YOU KNOW, I’M OUT HERE, IT SUCKS. IT SUCKS OUT HERE. YOU DON’T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT, MAKE A BETTER CITY. ALL RIGHT. NOW, 20, RECLASSIFICATION OF A PROPERTY LOCATED. SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED. AND WE CHANGED IT FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL, RIGHT. TO SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BACK TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL? RIGHT. SO THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW A LOT OF ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOMELESS PROBLEMS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMES UP, IS THERE IS THIS CONSTANT PANTMINE ABOUT HOW YOUR HANDS ARE TIED. OH IT’S NOT ZONE. OH, IF ONLY IT WAS NOT ZONED. YOUR HANDS ARE TIED WITH WHAT? BY WOM? ZONING REGULATIONS, NOBODY BUYS IT. YOU ZONE IT, UNZONE T IT’S YU GOING ABRACADABRA AND IT’S UNZONED. THESE LAWS OF OUR CREATION. AND YES, THERE ARE PROCESSES AND YES THOSE PROCESSES MATTER. BUT WE CONDUCT THE PROCESSES. YOUR HANDS ARE NOT TIED BY THEM. YOU’RE THE HANDS THAT UNTIE. THAT’S WHAT YOU ARE. ALL RIGHT, AND WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO AD, 2500, 3? LAST YEAR? 3? BY YOUR OWN STATEMENT. WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE KNOW WHAT YOU SAY WE’RE GOING TO DO. BUT WE ALSO KOW THAT THAT NEVER HAPPENS. THREE-YEAR EMERGENCY. THAT’S WHAT YOU’VE CREATED. AND THAT’S WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO CREATE. SO HERE’S AN IDEA. ALL RIGHT, INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO SHELL OUT MONEY TO A BUNCH OF BLOATED AND CORRUPT DEVELOPERS THAT DON’T REBUILD MONEY, BECAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW FIRES HAPPEN IN CALIFORNIA ON AN ANNUAL BASES AND DON’T PREPARE THAT. HOW ABOUT THIS, INSTEAD OF THAT, WE USE DO YOU KNOW THE PROPERTIES THAT DUANE TALKED ABOUT. MAYBE PROPERTIES THAT YOU OWN AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO ZONE AND UNZONE. THERE IS LITERALLY NO REASON. RIGHT. NOT ONLY THAT, ONE OF THE REASONS I WANT TODAY COMMENT ON THE HOME LTS SYSTEM, WE KNOW THAT YU HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO SHELTER THESE PEOPLE. WE KNOW YOU HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION, WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE SHELTERS AVAILABLE AND ALL THE ZONING, UNDER IN THE STATE AND MUNICIPAL THAT YOU HAVE THE POWER TO GO AROUND. NOT JUST THE POWER TO GO AROUND BUT THE OBLIGATION TO GO AROUND. AND YOU ACTIVELY NEGLECT THAT OBLIGATION? WHY? IT’S NOT BECAUSE IT’S WHAT WE WANT.>>ONE LAST CARD, COLEEN.>>WHAT A BREATH OF FRESH AIR THAT YOU HAVE CONSTITUENCE PAYING ATTENTION BESIDES THE USUAL SUSPECT. I WANT TO COMMENT ON ITEM 12.1 AND I DIDN’T TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH THE DETAILS IN YOUR FINDER OVER THERE, BECAUSE I DON’T EACTLY UNDERSTAND A CUSTODY AGREEMENT FOR INSTITUTIONAL SERVICES. I’M NOT SURE OF THOSE DETAILS. WHAT I AM SURE IS THAT YOU’RE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE U.S. BANK IN MINNEAPOLIS MINNESOTA. YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO. WHAT HAPPENED TO GO LOCAL? WHAT IS IT THAT LOCAL LENDING INSTITUTIONS HERE CANNOT DO FOR YOU WHAT THESE PEOPLE CAN. HYPOCRITES. MAYBE A NON BANK WITH DO SOME OF THE THIS WORK. LIKE CREDIT UNION. OR MAKE THEY CAN EXPAND THEIR SERVICES TO ACCOMMODATE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS. DOESN’T THAT MAKE SENSE TO KEEP THAT MONEY FLOWING LOCALLY. AND BEFORE YOU MAKE THIS DECISION, TO REJECT THIS BANK, U.S. BANK NATIONAL ASSOCIATION MINNESOTA, MINNEAPOLIS. THAT’S WERE RANDY POOL SAYS, HE IS LIVING AND WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT. AND THE GOVERNOR IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. YOUR FORMER WATER AGENCY BID. CONNECTED TO I DON’T, I DON’T KNOW. BUT I KNOW THAT THIS WITH THIS BANK YOU NEED TO INVESTIGATE. AND JULIE COMBS AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT HAS A CONSCIOUS HERE. TALK TO HIM ABOUT HIS DAVID VERSUS GOLIATHS WITH THESE BIG BAD BANKS. WHAT DO YOU NOT REMEMBER ABOUT 2008 IN THAT MANAGE FINANCIAL DISASTER INCLUDING WHERE THESE ASSETS MAY GO AND MAYBE SOME BIG DIRTY LAUNDERING MIGHT GO. WHAT ARE YOU FOR GETTING ABOUT WELLS FARGO THAT IS JUST RESENT? WHAT ARE YOU FOR GETTING ABOUT THE OCCUPY ON THE GROUNDS. WHAT AE YOU LEARNED? OBVIOUSLY, NOTHING. AND LOOK AT YOUR LEADERSHIP. IT’S TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE, CLEAN UP YOUR MONEY, CEAN UP EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. EVERYTHING. AND LET ME REMIND YOU, YOU’RE ON THE PAY ROLL OF THE SANTA ROSA CITY. ALL OF YOU ARE EMPLOYEES. ALL OF YOU ARE EMPLOYEES. THESE RESIDENTS, THESE VISITORS WHO WANT TO GIVE YOU THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE WHO YOU WORK FOR. THE LIVING ONES AND YOU WORK FOR THE DEAD ONES TOO THAT WERE MURDERED AND DIDN’T GET ANY JUSTICE. SO CLEAN HOUSE, SANTA ROSA. LEAD THE WAY FOR THE REST OF THE CITIES TO GET ALL THE ORGANIZED CRIME AND DIRTY MONEY.>>THANK YOU THOSE ARE ALL THE CARDS WE HAVE. COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? MS. COMBS AND MR. ROGERS?>>THANK YOU. I NOTICED THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN ATENDANCE AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE AND APPRECIATE THAT THEY’RE OUT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD IS THAT WE’RE REQUIRED BY LAW AND DO SO GIVE THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENTS OF ON TOPIC. FOR THREE MINUTES. AND WE DO THAT. WE ALSO HAVE A MOMENT WHERE WE GIVE THE PUBLIC THREE MINUTES ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. SO I HOPE YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT YOUR NEEDS AND DESIRES ARE WITHIN THAT THREE MINUTES. I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY SINCE THE QUESTION CAME UP ON ITEM 12.3 THAT THIS PARTICULAR REZONE THATING IT MAY LOOK LIKE ON THE SURFACE THAT DOES NOT ADDRESS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, IT DOES ADDRESS THE SING APPROXIMATELY FAMILY RESIDENTS. BUT THAT IS BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR MULTI FAMILY ZONING. IT ALLOWS FOR MULTI FAMILY HOUSING. ALSO I KNOW THAT IT’S CLOSE TO MY OWN HEART THAT WE WORK LOCALLY WITH OUR LOCAL BANKS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AND I KNOW SINCE I’VE BEEN ON MY COUNCIL, WE LOOK FOR EVERYTHING OPPORTUNITY TO BANK LOCALLY. IS IT POSSIBLE FOR SOMEBODY TO COMPLAIN THE CORRECT ANSWER. WHAT IS IT THE LOCAL BANK CANNOT DO THAT FOR US. CAN SOMEBODY ASK THIS QUESTION. THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION WITHIN THIS COUNCIL AND NORMALLY I WOULD GO ON. BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STUDENTS IT MAY BE USEFUL THAT WHILE W WOULD LIKE TO WORK LOCALLY, WE MAY HAVE LIMITATIONS TO USE THE SERVICES AVAILABLE LOCALLY.>>YES, COUNCILMEMBER COMBS. WE ACTUALLY DID LOOK AT ONE LOCAL BANK WITHIN THIS ONE LOCAL BANK PROPOSED. WE ENGAGED PFM TO HELP US BREAK DOWN THESE PROPOSALS FOR GENERAL BANKING SERVICES CAME EARLY TO COUNCIL AND NOW LOOKING FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES. THE EXCHANGE BANK THEY DID PROPOSE THEIR EXPERIENCE IN CAPITALIZATION, WHICH WAS SMALL. WE HAVE A PORTFOLIO.>>CAN YOU EXPLAIN CAPITALIZATION IN WORDS THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND.>>IT MEANS MONEY THAT THEY HAVE UNDER CONTROL.>>IS THERE A REGULARLATION THAT REQUIRES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY BE UNDER THEIR CONTROL THAT IS PROPORTIONATE TO THE MONEY WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM.>>THERE IS NOT A REGULARLATION, BUT THEY WERE RANKED ON HOW MUCH MONEY AND HOW MANY CLIENTS THEY HAD UNDER THEIR CONTROL. SO FOR EXAMPLE, U.S. BANK HAD OVER 400 BILLION IN THEIR HAND AND HUNDREDS OF CLIENTS. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MADE US A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE SMALLER LOCAL BANK. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT REALLY WEIGHED IN HERE, THE U.S. BANK WAS ABOUT 15,000 IN ANNUAL FEES, EXCHANGE BANK WAS ALMOST 170,000 BY FAR THE MOST EXPENSIVE ALL THE BANK PROPOSED ON THIS.>>WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT.>>SO THE BANK THAT WE CHOSE, IS ABOUT 15,000 A YEAR FOR CUSTODIAL SERVICES. EXCHANGE BANK WAS ABOUT 170,000 AND COMPARED TO ALL THE BANK THAT’S WE DID PROPOSED ON THIS, THEY WERE BY FAR THE MOST EXPENSIVE.>>SO IN ADDITION TO BEING CHEATER, THEY HAD ENOUGH MONEY IN THEIR CONTROL THAT IT WAS SAFER OR MORE ASTUTE TO GO WITH THEM. THAT’S RIGHT?>>THAT’S CORRECT.>>THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN AND HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.>>MR. ROGERS?>>THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, I DO WANT TO JUMP ON AD I HOPE TO SEPARATE THIS FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR. BUT I KEEP HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM THEY COME UP WITH WHERE WE BANK. I THINK THERE IS A TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC VALUE PUTTING 110 MILLION DOLLARS HERE SO THEY CAN MAKE SMALL BUSINESS LOANS TO HELP PEOPLE GET OFF THE GROUND. SO, YOU KNOW, CHUCK I HOPE IN THE FUTURE AND I RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE POLICIES THAT THE CITY THAT PRECLUDE US WITH GOING WITH SOMEBODY THAT IS MOST COSTLY. BUT I HOPE WE CAN HAVE A CULTURE WHERE WE LOOK AT THE INCORRECT VALLEY WHICH WE CAN QUANTIFY PUTTING THOSE DEVELOPS LOCALLY.>>ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER.>>THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. MR. CITY MANAGER, I WANT TO PIGGY BACK ON MY COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS. ON ITEM 12 ABOUT THE 1. IF SOME OF THE STUDENTS IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SERVICES WE’RE CONTRACTING FOR, THAT INFORMATION PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IN THE STAFF REPORT?>>THE STAFF REPORT FOR 12.1 JUST ADDRESSED THIS. THE ACTUAL REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL IS WAS ON OUR WEBSITE. I DN’T KNOW IF IT IS STILL BUT THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE.>>AND IF THE STUDENTS WANT TO BE BETTER INFORMED AND WATCH THE BANKING POLICIES, IS THAT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE?>>THAT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, VICE MAYOR. I JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT THE DATE OF THE COUNCIL MEETING WAS.>>GREAT. AND MR. CITY MANAGER, FOR ITEM 12.2. IF THE PUBLIC WANTED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE DOLLARS WERE, NECESSARY FOR. IS THAT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IN THE AVAILABLE IN THE STAFF REPORT?>>YES.>>AND OTS ITEM 12.3 IF THE STUDENTS WANTED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND ITEM PROPERTY OWNER APPROACHED US TO DO THIS MAKE, IS THAT PUBLIC AVAILABLE?>>YES, THAT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.>>GREAT. I’LL MOVE ITEMS 12.1 AND 12.3 AND WAIT FOR THE READING OF THE TEXT.>>SECOND.>>WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. YOUR VOTES PLEASE. AND WE HAVE SIX AYES AND ONE ABSTENTION, MR. TIBBETTS WITH AN ABSTENTION. WE CANNOT TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL THEN RECESS UNTIL 5:00 O’CLOCK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. PROPRIETOR SENTENCING. WE CANNOT TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL THEN RECESS UNTIL 5:00 O’CLOCK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.>>OKAY, WE’RE GOING TO RECONVENE OUR MAY 21 MEETING AT 5:00 O’CLOCK. WE’RE ON ITEM 13 PUBLIC COMMENT ON NON-AGENDA. FIRST SPEAKER IS DON FOLLOWED BY DUANE DEWITT.>>I’M HERE TO FOLLOW-UP ON A LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO YOU AND THE COUNCIL BACK IN MAY OF THIS MONTH MAY 6th. REGARDING THE ON GOING ISSUE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ACCOUNTABLE DEVELOPMENT COALITION HAS WITH THE BOATING, ASPHALT PLANT ON MAXWELL COURT. AND I’M HERE TO BE A FRIENDLY REMINDER ASKING FOR YOURSELF. OBVIOUSLY WE NEED THE COUNCIL’S HELP WITH THIS. THE NEIGHBORS HAVE DONE THEIR PART, THEY HAVE SHOWN UP TO MEETINGS, THEY VOICE THEIR OPINIONS IN LETTERS. THEY SIGNED PETITIONS, THEY HAVE DONE WHATEVER THEY CAN DO. CODE ENFORCEMENT, SOME WHATEVER THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO. I KNOW THAT COUNCIL IS UNDER A LOT OF STRESS. THEY HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON WITH HOUSING AND REBUILD AND HOMELESS, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WE WANT TO HAVE A GENRE MINDER, A GENTLE REMINDER, THAT THIS IS STILL AN ISSUE. AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I BECAME AWARE OF. IS THERE IS A GOING TO BE A BIG CONTRACT AWARDED TO CALTRANS WHICH. WHICH IS GREAT WE NEED NEW ASPHALT AND ROADS. BUT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE’VE HAD IN THE PAST IS NOISE ISSUES. SO. CAL. TRANCE WORK IS DONE IN THE EVENING. BODENE IS NOT BIDDING ON THE JOB BUT THEY’RE A LARGE CONTRACTOR. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE AWARDED THE BID NEXT WEEK, WE DON’T KNOW WHO IT IS. BUT IF THAT’S THE CASE, WE HAVE ON GOING ISSUES OF NOISE AND HOURS OF OPERATION. SO WE WANT TO BRING THIS UP, THAT EVENTUALLY THERE IS GOING TO BE A BIG PROJECT AND THEY MY BE PART OF IT. AND THEY MAY SEE WE HAVE THIS GOVERNMENT CONTRACT WITH CALTRANS AND IT’S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR TO US BACK OUT AND THEY MAY HAVE TO COME IN FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. I DON’T KNOW HOW IT’S GOING TO WORK. BUT THE QUICKER THAT WE CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS OR GET SOME RESOLUTION FROM LEGAL AND THIS IS BEEN ON GOING THING. I MEAN, YOU SAW IN THE LTTER, THERE IS LET THAERZ WERE WRITTEN IN 17 AND 18 AND BACK IN 16. AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY. AND VICTORIA THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THE COUNCIL NICE TO SEE YOU. AGAIN JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.>>DUANE DEWITT.>>I’M FROM DUANE DEWITT I’M FROM SANTA ROSA. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU I KNOW YOU FOLKS ARE BUSY. AND I WAS FORTUNATE THAT I SERVED MY COUNTRY. A LOT OF FOLKS, THEY THEY WERE GLAD THIS THEY WERE DRAFT DODGERS OR IF THEY WERE ABLE TO AVOID THAT COMMITMENT TO OUR LAND. BUT TONIGHT AT 6:00 O’CLOCK OVER AT THE VETS MEMORIAL BUILDING, THERE IS A TOWN HALL BUILDING WITH STAFF OF THE SAN FRANCISCO VETERANS AFFAIRS MEDICAL CENTER TO TALK ABOUT THE POSITIVES THAT VETERANS BRING TO A COMMUNITY AND HOW IT’S UTILIZED, THINGS WITHIN THE NEW VETERANS MISSION ACT. OFTEN IT’S FORGOTTEN HOW MUCH VETERANS HIP THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE FINANCES THAT COME INTO COMMUNITY HELPING THOSE VETERANS. SANTA ROSA BENEFITS WITH A CLINIC UP IN WINDSOR. AND THE COUNTY BENEFITS BECAUSE THERE ARE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF VETERANS HERE. SO WE HAVE DONE SOME POSITIVE THINGS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET COUNCILMAN THOMPSON T MATCH THE TRAIL WHICH WAS PUT IN BY MY VETERANS CHAPTER. WE WANT TO GET GOING ON THESE THINGS. WE HAVE DIFFICULTIES BECAUSE RECREATION AND PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS NOT BEEN THE MOST, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY, ACCESSIBLE DEPARTMENT AND IN ACCOMMODATING AND WORKING ON THIS THAT WOULD NOT COST THEM ANYTHING AND WE WOULD BE DOING IT. SO, I’M ASKING THAT YOU FOLKS, WOULD PERHAPS LOOK INTO IT IN A POSITIVE WAY. AND THEN ALSO LOOK INTO IT IN THE MANNER OF, HELPING TO HOUSE SOME OF THOSE VETERANS. YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET FUNDING TO DO THAT. THESE VOUCHERS ARE HERE IN THE COUNTY. AND THEY’RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE CITY. SO THERE IS TIMES WHEN YOU CAN GET FUNDING TO HELP VETERANS. IT’S NOT A NEGATIVE DRAW UPON YOU. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, YOU’RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET HEARINGS. IT’S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY’LL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A STUDY SESSION. SO TODAY, PEOPLE SHOW UP, THEY COME A WAY FROM THEIR EVER THEY’RE AT TO BE HERE AND THE AGENDA DOES NOT SHOW THAT NO, YOU DON’T GET TO SPEAK UNTIL TOMORROW. SO THESE TYPES OF THINGS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. AND I’M HOPING THAT YOU’LL EMBRACE THE BROWN ACT AND SAY YEAH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TAT EACH ITEM ON THE AGENDA CAN BE THERE AND THEY GET THE FULL-TIME. AND THINGS ARE DONE IN A DEMOCRATIC WAY THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO SERVED THEIR COUNTY WANT TO SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.>>THANK YOU. COLEEN FOLLOWED BY ANITA.>>GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCILMEMBERS. READY TO UPHOLD YOUR OATH? AND END YOUR WAR CRIMES? ON FRIDAY, SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS DICK DURBAN SAID, REGARDING GOING UNCONSTITUTIONAL WAR IN IRAQ, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON HERE. THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES! THIS DECISION TO BE MADE BY CONGRESS NOT BY THIS PRESIDENT. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS QUOTE IS THIS PRESIDENT NOT ANY PRESIDENT. ON TAT SAME FRIDAY, U.S. FORCES KILLED 17 IRAQ POLICEMEN. ARMED FORCES KILLED POLICEMEN SERVING IN IRAQ TRYING TO HELP WITH VIOLENCE THERE? WAS THAT AN ACCIDENT? WILL WE KNOW? YOU UPHOLD YOUR OATH, YOU COMPEL CONGRESS, YOU HAVE AN OATH EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY, TO UPHOLD THOSE UNTIL YOU’RE DOING T YOU’RE JUST AS GUILTY AS ANYTHING WHO LET HITLER COME TO POWER. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO SFRIEK FIRST. NO PARTICULARLY COUNTRY, NO PARTICULAR RELIGION NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO GO FIRST. AND THEN YOU’RE ALLOWING OUR COUNTRY TO GO INTO DEBT. WAR POWERS THAT ARE CRIMINAL SO. IF YOU DON’T LIKE WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS BEFORE WE GO TO WAR PAY FOR IT. MAKE AN AMENDMENT. THE WAR POWERS ACT IS MORE WAR CRIMES. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? WELL PEOPLE LIKE JILLIAN ASSANGE AND EDWARD, WORLD CLASS WHISTLE BLOWERS. I TRIED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, AND MY DAUGHTER ENDED UP MURDERED. THE MORE I DON’T GET JUSTICE, THE MORE PEOPLE FIND OUT. JOHN GREENWELLED REGARDING SNOWED EN ALSO OFFERED LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR SOME. SO THAT YOUR RECORDS HAVE TO BE RELEASED, YOU’RE FINALLY COMPLYING WITH THE LAW. SO I MADE THE REQUEST FROM THE PEOPLE HERE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND THEIR CONSCIOUS TO WORK WITH ME ON DISCLOSING ALL OF THE DETAILS, NOT JUST THE MISCONDUCT RECORDS. BUT EVERY BIT OF IT UNTIL WE FIND OUT, WHO MURDERED MY CHILD. BESIDES THE SECOND-DEGREE MURDER? WAS IT FIRST? WHO WROTE INTO HER LEG, I’M SORRY. WAS IT HER HANDWRITING? BECAUSE I GAVE A RECORD OF HER HANDWRITING TWO MONTHS BEFORE THEY FOUND HER BODY. BEING IN THE NEXT ROOM WHILE HER FATHER RAPED ME.>>ANITA FOLLOWED BY PETER.>>THANK YOU FOR HANGING AROUND AND LISTENING TO US. SO I HAVE A FEW COMMENT FOR YOU. FIRST OF ALL I DID FIND THAT IN ILLINOIS THEY SAID THE CITY COUNCIL MUST ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT. SO JUST FOR YOUR, YEAH, YOU’RE ALLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT EVERYBODY IS GONE AND THE ISSUES ARE OVER. I MEAN, YOU ALREADY VOTED ON THAT PUBLIC BANKING BILL. OKAY. SO I’M SO, I’M VERY DISAPPOINTED I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO COMMENT AT THE STUDY SESSION BECAUSE I CAME AND YOU WENT AHEAD AND YES, I’M PUBLIC BANKING AND YOU OUGHT TO LOOK AT WHAT US. BANK HAS DONE. BECAUSE IT HAS FULLY INVESTED AND RON AND BLACK ROTH AND RAY THON AND THE OTHER IS CAL PERS. AND IF YOU DON’T WANT A WAR OVERSEAS, AND WE’VE GOT FOUR CHOICES THERE NOW. YOU OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT TAKING YOUR MONEY OUT OF CAL PERS. IT’S A HEAVILY INVESTED. AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT’S WHY THEY WERE DOWN BY 4.2 POINTS BECAUSE THEY WERE HEAVILY INVESTED IN THE REAL ESTATE MARKET WHICH PULLED A SCAM ON OUR COUNTRY, IF YOU RECALL THE WHOLE REAL ESTATE MARKET WHICH IS WHY THEY WERE SHORT ON THAT FUNDING. SO I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE IT’S A BIG ISSUE FOR ME. I DRIVE BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING UNDERNEATH CARDBOARD BOXES EVERY DAY. AND I HOPE THAT YOU’RE OPENING UP SOME PROPERTY FOR THE RV PARKING, SINCE THEY NOW HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THAT. BUT I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET THAT ON THE ROLL SO PEOPLE CAN COME OUT OF THE RAIN. AND I ALSO I WANT TO SPORT CHAP PROGRAM. BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME CHURCHES THAT ARE USING THE CHAP PROGRAM. WE HAVE CHRIST CHURCH ON YOLUPA, METHODIST ON MONTGOMERY AND METHODIST ON GRIFFIN. SO IF YOU DEFUND THAT PROGRAM, THEY WILL BE DISCOURAGED THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO HELP THE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN WAYS THAT THEY CAN. AND YES, PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THEIR CARS. I’M SORRY TO SAY, BUT THEY CAN’T AFFORD A PLACE TO LIVE. I KNOW, BECAUSE I’M LIKE THAT FAR AWAY FROM IT MYSELF. SO, 4.2 MILLION TO CAL PERS, UNFORTUNATELY. THAT’S THROWING MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN AND INTO THE BUCKET OF YEAH, WHAT YOU’RE DOING IS GIVING THE U.S. GOVERNMENT MORE MONEY TO FIGHT WARS OVERSEAS. YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT. AND 6.7 MILLION IN REVENUE RESOURCES, WHEN WE HAVE EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION.>>THANK YOU. PETER FOLLOWED BY RAINE.>>IS IT ONE MINUTE?>>THREE.>>OH OKAY. WELL GOOD AFTERNOON. AND HOW TIRED AM I AND YOU OF LISTENING TO PEOPLE TALK AS OPPOSED TO DOING THE WALK. AND THEY HAVE BEEN SHOWN THE WALK. BUT VAMPIRES ARE LIKE A BUNCH OF BLUE CRABS IN A PAIL. ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS GET OUT, AND AS THEY ARE ABOUT TO GET OUT, THEY PULL EACH OTHER DOWN. THEY JUST GOT TO KEEP LOOK IN A DIRECTION WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE AT POWER FOR A BEAUTIFUL INSURECKTION AND YOU GT THE PEOPLE’S PAY IN SACRAMENTO AND ALL THE WHILE WE’RE IN A NATION THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY BASED ON JUDEAH WHERE TO WREAK ONE RULE YOU BREAK THEM ALL AND VAMPIRES DON’T CARE BECAUSE THEY CAN’T SEE THE LIGHT BECAUSE THEY CAN’T SEE THE PROOF. LOOK AROUND, THERE IS PLENTY OF PROOF. AND YOUR EARS MUST BE HURTING FROM PEOPLE WAPPING. SO LET’S GO TO STRAWBERRY. WHICH WOULD BE MORE THAN A CLEVER ENDEAVOUR. KNOWING THAT THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE IN OIL MAINTAINS THIS INSANITY, JUST PUT IT ASIDE. SO I CONTACTED TOMMY CHUNING AND ROY ROJAS, THEY SPOEKD A PEACE BONG. ROJAS HAS RUNS HISPANIC LABOR AS WAY. CHONG THE UNOFFICIAL PRESIDENTE OF MEDICINAL WEED, WEED AND STRAWBERRY WORKERS ABUSED BY CORRUPTION WEED. COMES NOW THE FREEDOM 40 NIGHTS AND 40 DAYS. THE HUGALA. AND CALIFORNIA ASIANS HAVE LONG GROWN STRAWBERRIES FIELDS SO WE GOT TOGETHER AS WE CHANGED THE SOCIAL WEATHER FOR OUR WORK AND OUR YIELDS. THE STRIKE BEGAN NOW. IT HAS BEGUN AS THE FULL MOON’S FIRE TURNED INTO A FLAME UNDER A BEAUTIFUL SUN. NO LABOR NO SCHOOLS NO MORTGAGES, NO RENTS. THE GREATEST POWER IN OUR, IN YOUR HEART COMMANDS AS POWER NOW RELEASED. AS I HAVE READ THE ART TO PEACE. AS SHIRLEY AS THE FIRES WERE COMING IN THE EARTH REMANDED, THE STARSHIPS, THE CHARIOTS OF FIRES HAVE ARRIVED. TO SHUT DOWN THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE AND INDUSTRY OF OIL. LET’S OPEN UP, IT’S OPENED UP I ASK I TASK I COMMAND I PRAY.>>OKAY, THANK YOU. RAINE?>>I CAME ABOUT THE CHAPS BEING UNDER REVIEW. AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I’VE BEEN ENCOURAGING CHURCHES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAMS MOVING THAT WAY IN YOUR COUNTY. I THINK IF YOU GET RID OF IT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT WHEN THEY’RE TRYING TO GET USED TO OR USE OR AT LEAST ENSURE HOW TO USE ON IT. THAT COULDN’T GET ANYTHING THAT WANTED TO. SO JUST TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. THEN THEY’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE RISK. IF THE PROGRAMS DISAPPEAR, WHO IS GOING TO TAKE THIS RISK TO GET ANYTHING GOING? ALL THE WORK THAT IT TAKES TO FIGURE OUT TO DO T.SINCE I COULDN’T GET A LOT OF CHURCHES TO DO T I DECIDED TO OPEN MY OWN CHURCH. THAT’S WHAT I A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T KNOW. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE IN THE FUTURE. A LOT OF THESE FUND THATING ARE GIVEN OUT, ARE GOING TO BE BUILDING LIKE TEN TINY HOUSES, WHERE WHEN I DO SURVEYS, THEY WOULD RATHER LIVE IN YOURS. AND IT FITS U.N. CENTER PLUS. SO THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN PLANNING STAGE OF GETTING TO THAT POINT SO I DON’T WANT IT TO DISAPPEAR. I THINK THAT’S THE CHURCHES DUTY TO DO THA. THAT’S THE FOUNDATION OF RELIGION ONE OF THE SIGNS MA MY FRIENDS LIKE JAMES 1:27 RELIGION PURE AND UNDEFIABLE AND VISITING THE WIDOW AND FATHERLESS IN TIME OF AFFLICTION AND REMAINING SPOTLESS. SO IF WE TAKE THE ABILITY TO FUNDING TO DO THAT AND SPECIAL PERMITS TO DO THAT, YOU’RE TAKING AWAY THE RIGHT TO HAVE A RELIGION. IT’S NOT FOR YOUR PERSONAL SALVATION, IT’S FOR YOUR CHARITY. IT’S FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. IT’S FOR YOUR TRIBE. TRIBE IS THE THIRD MOST USED UNTIL THE BIBLE. AND WHOLE RELIGION IS BETWEEN MOAB, THEY TOOK CARE OF THEIR BROTHERS THAT IS DAD’S WIFE THAT MOAB, AND EVEN THEIR ENEMY, IF THEY WERE MARRIED TO THE BROTHER, THEY WOULD TAKE EVERYBODY IN. LET THE CHURCHES TAKE THEM IN. THAT’S WHAT THE RELIGION IS. LET THEM TAKE THEM IN.>>THANK YOU. THOMAS ELZ?>>YOU ARE STALL WARDS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HEREAFTER THE WHOLE DAY. I REALLY LIKE PETER’S POETRY. I DON’T KNOW IF YOU CAN ACT ON IT, BUT I LIKE IT. IT’S INTERESTING TO HEAR. AND THE CAP PROGRAM I’M IN FAVOR OF THAT AS WELL. BUT, I WANT ED TO MENTION SOMETHING ELSE. I HEARD THE REPORT THAT, THAT PARADISE WAS THE LARGEST CON FILLGRATION IN THE HISTORY OF CALIFORNIA. IF YOU COUNT IT BY DOLLARS AND CENTS TODAY, YES. BUT IF THE FIRE IN SAN FRANCISCO ACTUALLY WAS VASLY MORE PROFOUND IN 1906. WE CALLED IT AN EARTHQUAKE BUT IN FACT IT WAS A FIRE. AND 3000 PEOPLE DIED IN THAT FIRE. THE PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED BY UNPACKING THEM FROM THE EARTHQUAKE. BUT WHEN THEY BURN, THEY BURNED. I READ THE THINGS IN HISTORY. AND WHAT WAS PROFOUND IS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THAT. I WANTED TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD DIED. THERE WAS THIS OTHER FIRE THAT OCCUR IN 1851. AND SO I READ ABOUT THE 1851 FIRE AND IT BURNED THREE QUARTERS OF SAN FRANCISCO AT THE TIME. AND THERE HAD BEEN 7 FIRES IN ABOUT TWO YEARS. YOU THINK THAT’S NOT VERY MUCH. BUT IT WAS THREE TIMES LARGER THAN THE PREVIOUS, THE LARGEST SIX FIRES THAT HAVE BEEN BEFORE THAT. AND AS I SAID, BURNED THREE QUARTERS OF SAN FRANCISCO AND 2000, 1,000 HOUSES AND 2000 BUILDINGS. THERE WERE AT LEAST 60 OF THEM THAT WERE SHOWN AS HISTORICAL RECORD THAT WERE BRICK AND STEEL BUILDINGS. BRICK AND/OR STEEL BUILDINGS I 1851 THAT BURNED IN THAT FIRE. AND THEY SAID THERE WERE GALE-FORCE WINDS, GALE-FORCE WINDS THAT THEY CANNOT STOP EVEN WITH WATER AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY DID. THEY COULD NOT STOP. BUT THEY ONLY HAD A LITTLE BIT OF WATER. THEY COULD NOT STOP THE FIRE FROM THERE. AND BUT IT WAS, TURNED OUT 1851 TO 1906 IS 55 YEARS. 1906 TO 1961 WHICH IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE HENLEY FIRE. AND WHAT YOU SEE IS THESE ARE METEOR LOGICAL EVENTS. WHERE THEY HAD FIRE, THEY COULD PUT THE FIRES OUT. AND WHERE THEY DIDN’T HAVE WATER, THE FIRE OVERCAME. THE POINT IS WE NOW HAVE A SERIES OF FOUR OF THESE FIRES.>>THANK YOU, THOMAS. NO OTHER PERSON ON PUBLIC AGENDA. I WILL RECESS AND RECONVENE TOMORROW MORNING FOR OUR STUDY SESSION.


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