How to Estimate an Interior Door| by DYB Coach Ron Ramsden

How to Estimate an Interior Door| by DYB Coach Ron Ramsden


Estimating Interiors and the process to do
it. I am Ron Ramsden, I am a DYB coach, and we
are going to talk about estimating a door, it is a simple process, and it is the start
to many bigger things to come. I am Ron Ramsden and a DYB coach, I am also
a painting contractor up here in Massachusetts. Putting together an estimate that is going
to stand out from everybody else, and also knowing the cost to painting a door. And then
we are going to take this door, you can go to windows, walls, ceilings, etcetera. But
let is get the footprint and the base all set right up-front, let us talk about the
process. On a door, something like this, any exterior,
interior door, we start out with cleaning the door, we have a lot of oils from hands,
dogs, kids, etcetera on the door, so we want to wash it down. Then we are going to light-sand
it and then we are going to.. if it is painting, we are going to apply one or two coats of
paint. A couple other things you want to know too.. On interior doors, we take off the
lock set, some of the exterior doors, we do not take them off because we found, putting
them back on, sometimes takes as long as painting the door, you do not get it lined up right,
you will be possibly scratching the new paint. Why do I tell you the process? The process
is great to explain to the customer, or actually write it down on the estimate proposal that
you are putting to them. And the reason I say that is if they are comparing Apples to
Apple, if you are contractor A and there is also a contractor B, contractor B might say,
paint exterior door. But what we want to do is we want to tell them we are going to clean
the door, we are going to light-sand the door, we are going to vacuum or dust-off the door,
we are going to apply 2 coats of paints, we are going to apply 2 coats of Benjamin Moore
rigo select interior paints, we like to tell the customers what they are actually getting
for the cost. And this justifies and some customers eyes and brain, that they are
going to pay a premium because they are working with a professional.
So now let us talk about painting the actual door and how long is this going to take? If
you do not have labor rates set yet, you do not have any production numbers set.
The first one is going to be an educated guess, what are you billing customers for? Are you
a $40 an hour painter, are you a $70 an hour painter? Take a look at this door, so if you
are going to remove the lock set, you are going to lightly sand the door, you are going
to protect everything underneath and around the area, you are going to dust it off, you
are going to apply a coat of paint, you are going to wait till it dries and you are going
to apply a paint. Is this an hours worth of work? If it is
an hours worth of work, your labor charge on this is what we are going to set, $50 an
hour. $50 an hour is an average, the PVCA has a national rate schedule that you might
want to pick into, you might want to talk to other contractors, not we are trying to
be like them, but you have to start with a base. So, on something like this, I am saying
$50 an hour, it is going to take us an hour, you can probably do it in a lot less than
that but we have to start with a base and we can work from there.
But $50 is not the cost of painting this door, we have material, it is not a quarter of the
material, but it is some material, and the smallest amount you can buy is a quart, if
you are only doing one door, you are charging for the full quart, you got to have a couple
pieces of sanding paper and maybe some plastic or drop. So, this all have.. Some of you
might be saying, I am not charging for that, I have it in the shop. Well, this is the way
to do it professionally, is you charge for the material and you actually mark up the
material. Is a quarter paint going to cost you $20? So, if you are going to have a 20%
markup, you have $24, so 10% will be $2, 20% will be $4, you have a $24 worth of material,
and a couple of pieces of sandpaper. So basically, you have about $25 worth of material, you
can probably paint 3 of the doors with that quote, but currently right now, if you are
doing multiple doors in a house, then you can spread that material over, across the
entire job. So what we want to do is, on the proposal,
we want to write down, and this is basically how we do it right now, is our prep. Our prep
is, protect all areas not to be painted, remove lock set, wash down doors, light-sand door,
vacuum or dust-off, apply 2 coats of Benjamin Moore rigor select paint, re-install the door
locks, and if you have taken off the curtains, and these are beautiful curtains as you can
see, you might want to put them back on, or ask the customer ahead of time. Are you planning
on putting the curtains back up? If not, we can fill those holes, and you can state that.
If you write that down in your labor, and as we say, as the material, the labor, we
said 50, until you actually start timing yourself, you find out your true production rate, you
start with the 50, you start with something national, what the PVCA has for national numbers,
you start with something and then go from there, take an educated, measured guess on
your first door. From there you start writing down and timing yourself, and find out that
you can do 2 doors an hour, if you know your overhead cost and your billable rate, we can
work on that. But just do not start just say, walk around the house and say $4 or $100?
let’s do some education, let’s get some production rates, start writing down these
production rates, time yourself with your phone as you are doing it, with no interruptions.
And I am not just saying, start with all your painting, start measuring when you are setting
up, you put the plastic or drop floss down, you are taking the door knob off, you are
washing the door, all that counts, and then putting the door knob back on. You will be
surprised that it usually takes a lot longer than you think it’s actually going to.
I hope this helped? Watch for other interior estimating videos, I am Ron Ramsden, I’d
love to hear your comments, how you do it, how you actually write it up to a customer,
please share those, we can all share our information. The more educated we all are, the better we
all are often in the long run. I am Ron Ramsden, I am a DYB coach, also a
painting contractor. If you would like to touch base with me, send me a message here,
find me on Facebook, I would love to talk to you. You can also email me at [email protected]
Hope this finds you well? Happy estimating..


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