period drama costume designers these days

period drama costume designers these days

Okay, so we have a period drama that is set in the 18th century and uh… we’re gonna need to design some nice costumes for our actresses. So, any ideas? Which part of the century? Why does that matter? Because it’s a century. You wouldn’t say 1950s and 1990s are the same, would you? Yeah, no. No one would notice. Yeah, it kind of ruins the whole creativity aspect of it. Like I wanted the costumes to be this really like, creative space. We don’t want the costumes to be like copies of historical garments because it’s cinema, you know? I want to give them- to serve like a really modern twist. Yeah, but in order for that to work, you need to know what you’re twisting first. I’m sorry, are you trying to sabotage this production? Anyway, moving on. I’d like to make a list of stuff that we need. So, if you come up with anything, let me know. Historical undergarments to achieve the right silhouette- Booooobs! Yes, our all-time priority. I’m gonna have to add flowing luscious hair. Sorry, as in loose hair? Is that a problem? It was kind of like a really big no-no at the time and if you didn’t put your hair up you would have them hidden underneath a cap and… Ewww! *Retching* Eww, ew, ew. *Retching* Oh my God! No! God! I’m gonna throw up. No, disgusting! I’m gonna write that down, no caps. Moving on. Back lacing. Yeah, about that. Dresses were usually closed in the front. Oooff. Back lacing was used in court gowns and our movie’s set in a Yorkshire village. Yeah, but dresses don’t close in front. Anyway, undergarments. So obviously we have drawers. Drawers didn’t even exist back then. It was not until the 1820s when they became popular. Are you implying that they wore nothing underneath? They had to wear something. So, frilled drawers it is. Now, because we do care for historical accuracy, the actresses are going to wear stays. Which is also going to help with the boob situation, but the modern twist is they’re going to wear it on a naked body, so when they take the stays off, there’s going to be lacing marks on their bodies. Which is going to show how cruel and evil corsets were. Why would anyone in their right minds do it? Like logically. *Gasp* We don’t want realness, we want magic. How about what was considered a norm at the time? Like a shift? *Exasperated Scoff* A pair of stays? Stockings, garters? Bum roll, petticoat? How much time do you think we have? We’re going to spend like a couple of months attaching machine sewn embroidery details on the ball gowns. Ugh. No, we’re ditching the petticoats, we’re ditching the bum roll, ditching the shifts, we’re keeping the stockings because they’re sexy and will work in bed scenes nicely. Now- Do we really need to make things sexy? *Scoff* Does the Mars bar really need two layers? No, but that’s what sells. I honestly think people are okay with historical accuracy and, and characters looking historical. I think they can handle this pretty well. *Laughing* Oh, wow! Oh my gosh! *Laughing* Oh, my God! *Laughing* *Heavy Breathing* Wow! Okay, you’re fired. Now, we’re gonna have to figure out how to make them wear tight leather pants at some point.

100 thoughts on “period drama costume designers these days

  1. I know this is just a really short skit but I think what could have really added to it is having a few shot where more then one character is in the frame. I know you play all three of them so you'd have to stich them in post but I don't think it would be that hard if you used a static light and sat far enough so no limbs or shadows overlap.

    For example the reaction at 1:20 could start with both of them in frame than switching to the one with stronger/louder expression than ending with the two or all three in frame.
    You'de have to plan out the shots though and shoot them all at once in each camera position.
    Idk I'm overthinking this.

  2. I'm not a pro when it comes to historical accuracy, but OH MY GOD. My friend and I have a lot of 'old' characters, and we like to draw them a lot. One day we were talking about what the youngest, a Japanese little girl would wear in the 1800's, and she shrugged it off and said "it doesn't have to be accurate, I don't think her mom would force her to wear such clothing" and when we discussed what her British mom would wear.. she sent me a prom dress and said "I think the mom would wear that all the time!"
    Or even when I wanna draw fanart for a character who lived in the 40s – 60s, the original creator would draw the female character in complete modern outfits and, her boyfriend would call her absolutely modern outfits 'granny clothing'.

  3. I saw a 19th century photograph of women in a western saloon. They were dressed in white from the neck to the floor with long sleeves. So much for Miss Kitty.

  4. I talked to an extra from the new Little Women, and based on her accounting, I'd say that they weren't wearing "costumes", but actual recreations of 1860s New England women's attire, petticoats, shifts, frames, corsets, bum rolls and all, with proper hairdos.

  5. First video I've ever watched of you, but my goodness it made me laugh and I hope your other videos are just as great as this one!

  6. The editing on this is brilliant. The soundtracks overlap as they're talking over each other, the lighting an camera angles show they're sitting in different places. I really, really hope someone funds this woman to do a commercial film. Personally I love historically accurate pieces, but I know the vast majority of people would just prefer a flying King Arthur with a glowing sword or some nonsense.

  7. I love this video not because I have much of an interest in fashion but because I recognize the wonderful dedication to elucidating the complexities of your field of study. There are so many like you on YouTube in so many areas of historical study and I find the meta parallels in all these narratives so endearing.

  8. Yes, fire her… but first, dress her in stockings and slap her on the butt.
    Come on, the Marxist Feminists have taught us that history, is entirely over rated!

  9. When I took a theater class in college, for my final project, I had a choice between doing set design for a period play, or costume design for the same play. I am so glad to have chosen set design.

  10. This ladies niegbors probably think sues nuts, but its really well written, and funny and even has a professional rytham.

  11. Karolina- I bet it's gonna be hard to come up with a period costume with a modern twist…
    Karolina- Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience
    Me- Whoops, wrong channel of person talking to themselves pitching ideas

    Ryan George- Whoopsie!

  12. I'm curious, what do you thing about the costumes in the movie The Russian Ark? Or anyone else that knows a little bit about fashion history?
    I just saw it and I thought all the costumes were beautiful.

  13. I know this is meant primarily as a joke, also that there are actually people as vapid as those depicted.

    Seriously, how in the world are you able to even attempt to communicate with people like this??
    They’re idiots.

  14. From the video description: "making things relatable for the modern viewer" Yep, like slender and athletic actors and actresses are relatable to today's viewer… pfffff, hahahaha

  15. Wonderful. I wonder what you made of the costumes in “The Favourite”? To my untrained eye they seemed an excellent modern twist on period design (minimalist detail, monochrome colour scheme) – although the leather pants remark…?

  16. It was supposed to be a skit but ended up as an accurate reconstruction.
    Although still better than dick helmets for Nilfgaardian soldiers because smash the patriarchy lol

  17. Sounds like the typical lies of Jullywood. If the potential boss has oversized glasses and looks like a flaming feminist, RUN!

  18. An artistic note. I’m not sure if this was supposed to be funny, because it’s delivered fairly straight. If you’re trying to make one side seem ridiculous or unreasonable you should pair their realistic views with ones that take the same vain to the extreme. I assume the non accurate view is the one you’re opposing in this video, so they should take their suggestions to an extreme. Like adding clearly modern elements, because most of what they suggest are common misunderstandings of fashion history. And in a group of three, it’s easier to make the odd one out seem wrong.
    It seems like you know what you’re talking about, but the way it’s presented doesn’t make the intended view point obvious.

  19. This hits the nail on the head! While I'm not against a little T&A on the screen, there's a time and place for everything.

    I've seen some alleged 'period' pieces, which presented the leads in obviously modern clothing, hairstyles and makeup; and which also included entirely inappropriate displays of cleavage. It completely destroys any illusion of being a period piece.

    We don't need Ron Jeremy and Asa Akira, when the story is about an 18th century struggle.

  20. And that's before we get to male costumes. Is it an 800CE era gritty wartime action adventure? Leather vest, puffy shirt, tight pants, riding boots.

    Is it a 1750s French court romance? Leather vest, puffy shirt, tight pants, riding boots.

    Is it an Elizabethan political drama? Leather vest, puffy shirt, tight pants, riding boots, AND A NECK RUFF!

  21. I'm surprised she lasted to get fired. After the first three rejections and ridicules, I'd have just walked out and kept going. Why would I want my name listed in the credits for this abortion in the making?

  22. Having conversed with costume departments you have two real causes 1) most costumes are already made and they reuse what they have. 2) costume designers aren't generally very smart or knowledgeable, they aren't historians, or paid very much.
    Films hire someone who knows how to use a sewing machine, that have worked on other films. Also, time is all that matters on a film set. everything is rushed.
    Lets be honest, these things are way more accurate than most men's stuff like armour and so on, which can be 400 years or more out of date as par for the course. Also leather studded armour and other fetish gear.

    Besides, the sad fact is, that tester audiences now EXPECT incorrect things, and think that historical accuracy looks wrong – and the mistakes are copied as general audiences want to see the same thing.

  23. That nude link in the description is misleading … unless cats have taken over the internet….no wonder there is so many cat videos… you won't take me alive cats …arrrggghhhhhh….

  24. Have you seen the show 'anne with an e'(on netflix) or 'AnnE' (on cbc) it's based in late 1800/early 1900 (i forgot which) from my point of view it seems accurate but it would be cool to get your opinion?

  25. Designer: The director wants 100% historical accuracy, so the soldiers will be wearing blue uniforms.

    Advisor: They didn't wear blue uniforms. Only red.

    Designer: Yes, they did wear blue. I saw it in "blah, blah" movie. The director doesn't like red anyway.

    Advisor: Remind me again why I am here?

    It is the same for military wardrobe. Period or contemporary. Uniforms are to be worn to the specifications set by a previous inaccurate movie and not to the specifications worn in reality. So the inaccuracies become the standard and are perpetuated by a lazy industry.

    Good job and keep the pressure on them!

  26. Makeup is another point. Most of the times I don’t notice particularly however in one show called The Paradise there was an episode where they made a specific point of a new sales woman being… of loose morals because she wore makeup but she literally looked no different from the rest of the female cast who you were meant to believe were wearing no makeup.

    You can’t have it both ways, it was completely ridiculous.

    It would be like watching a 1970s police drama where the department is shocked by the new officer being a woman but the whole series up to this point was entirely cast of female officers.

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