Should all Toilets be Gender Neutral?

Should all Toilets be Gender Neutral?

Gender neutral toilets and the politics of
it have seen a lot of discussion in recent years in the news media and online. But as someone who designs architectural spaces
that have toilets, I wanted to find out the practicalities of designing gender neutral
washrooms from a functional and design perspective. Is it practical to design a space with gender
neutral toilets? What are benefits and drawbacks? And, what are the building code barriers that
prevent us from doing so? One of the primary benefits of gender neutral
toilets is that anyone, regardless of gender, can use whatever washroom is available. But while many people think that gender neutral
toilets only help trans people and other sexual minorities, there are actually many other
benefits that can help everyone. One benefits is that it can eliminates situations
where the women’s washroom line up is out the door while the men’s washroom is nearly
empty or vice versa. Biologically – women require more time using
the toilet than men – which often results in longer lines waiting to use the women’s
room. In addition there are places like sports stadiums,
or other public event spaces where sometimes the attendees are predominately one gender
or the other. And it’s also possible for some workplace
to have more of one gender than another. I know I have definitely gone into the men’s
room when I just couldn’t hold it anymore. And if washrooms were gender neutral – this
would alleviate a lot of unnecessary line ups. And weird looks. The other benefit is that it allows parents
who have opposite sex children to accompany their children into the washroom if they don’t
feel safe leaving them alone in a public space. It also allows adults who are caregivers to
opposite sex elderly or physically disabled relatives from accompanying that person into
the washroom. Some public spaces already provide family
washrooms to mitigate this problem but these facilities are still few and far between and
as some of you are probably aware – children, older adults, people with disabilities and
people with illnesses are usually not the best at “just holding it in.” The next benefit, from an architectural design
perspective – is that gender neutral washrooms could be more efficient when it comes to space
planning. Instead of having to provide two separate
rooms, now we may only provide one – potentially saving some areas in circulation, partition
walls, and plumbing cavity spaces. This allows more room for the primary activity
of the space and potentially saving the user in real-estate costs. Of course, it’s also important to consider
the potential drawbacks. Many people – male, female, or gender non-conforming
– are uncomfortable with going to the toilet close to other genders, due to various concerns
relating to privacy, cultural preferences and safety. This is of course where the debate often gets
heated, especially in comment sections I’m sure this one below will be no different. As for my personal preference, based on the
aforementioned history of running into men’s rooms when I really gotta go, growing up in
the rural regions of a developing country where most toilets looked like this. Actually thats probably one of the nicer ones. And living in co-ed university dorms with
unisex toilets for four years, I don’t really care where I go as long as I get to go. But – I understand that not everyone is like
me and would prefer to have some other options. One way to achieve this is to provide all
three washroom options – male, female, and gender neutral. However – this really doesn’t help with
the whole “efficiency in space planning” approach. So the best option is to incorporate more
single-user washrooms, or toilet stalls that are fully partitioned, and provide more privacy. Many local building codes already mandate
a single-user universally accessible toilet room, which in this case can also double as
toilet rooms for people who just prefer to do their business alone. But this now leads us to the most tricky problem. Is it even possible to make all the toilet
facilities in an entire occupancy gender neutral even if you wanted to? Unfortunately – most places in North America
don’t make it very easy to implement non-gendered washrooms. Codes vary depending on what state, province
or city you live in, but most building codes actually require toilet rooms to be distinctively
segregated and be clearly marked as either male for female. In some cases, if your establishment (such
as a small restaurant) is small enough to only have to provide one or two toilets, then
those are generally permitted to be non-gendered. But for larger occupancies, usually the building
codes require them to be planned based on separated male and female rooms. So yes, until laws reform and building codes
adapt, providing gender neutral toilets is going to require quite a bit of clever maneuvering
around building codes in order to be implemented. So those are just my two cents, as a user
and designer of washrooms. But what do you guys think? Do you prefer to go to gendered or non-gender
washrooms? Do you wish there were more private, full
partitioned stalls? Are there other ways public toilets can be
designed that will improve your toilet going experience? Feel free to argue in the comments! Thanks so much for watching. If you enjoyed this video, here are some more
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75 thoughts on “Should all Toilets be Gender Neutral?

  1. I've had the idea of simply using iconography of the type of toilet (urinal or standard) inside the washroom and leave the human looking figures out of the equation, but I'm not an architect so I'm not sure if that would work!

  2. Also, when I use a urinal, I'd prefer the divider to be about floor to ceiling, or as close to it as possible. I have no need being able to see the person standing next to me, but the best option for me is a single-use bathroom

  3. While fully partitioned stalls take up slightly more space and probably cost somewhat more than the non-partitioned version, I vastly prefer them in terms of privacy, versatility, and their capability as gender-neutral/gender-inclusive solutions. I get that some building codes require segregated bathrooms, but we should work to change that. I understand that some people are uncomfortable with non-gender segregated bathrooms, but I think as soon as people start using them, they will get used to them very quickly.
    The one thing you lose out on with gender-neutral bathrooms are urinals for people who can pee standing up. They are much faster to use, more water efficient, and they keep the sit down toilets cleaner (since people won't be peeing into them causing splash-back). If I'm not mistaken this is one of the main reasons why men's bathrooms tend to have faster lines. I think the only solution to that is to have a couple of partitioned off urinals within the gender-neutral bathroom to keep the flow of traffic faster and more efficient.

  4. I believe that gendered restrooms are another utility to accompany the power structures of gendered class division in society and are completely useless to a better society. If restrooms were never separated to begin with then people wouldn't have problems because there would have to be a shared discussion and respect for each genders in the shared space. Also it just isn't effective as you said.

  5. My question is more to do with the unique design of American public bathrooms. Here, our stalls are more partial partitions with open spaces top in bottom. Many public bathrooms in Europe look like a series of toilet-filled closets. In the interest of encouraging gender neutral restrooms, that design would help with privacy concerns. So what are the reasons for the design difference?

  6. The last time I went to the De Young, they had converted all the washrooms into gender neutral ones. It was one of the best public bathroom experience I’ve ever had lol. The washrooms were clean and noone stood in a line, it wasn’t awkward, and nobody made it awkward. Definitely the most efficient restroom I’ve ever experienced out and about

  7. This really reminds me of the bathrooms in the YouTube Spaces. I‘ve been to two so far, and both times I was kind of caught off guard by the gender neutral restrooms. However, it‘s all kind of… fine. Well, especially since each toilet actually has full walls, not stalls, therefore having more privacy.

  8. Love your stuff! I was terrified of the comments, but turns out I'm early! There are 2 as of typing. I'm nonbinary lol and I think in the US at least, our usual design is super unsanitary n socially uncomfortable.

    There either needs to be more research into the sanitation and psychology or it needs to be way better applied. Among other things the current state of public male restrooms and changing tables are extremely disrespectful towards the user and just: gross.

    My understanding is that, for optimal sanitation, toilets are supposed to be way separated from everything, including the sinks (I don't know for certain I'm a science person but I don't have a doctorate in sanitation lol). And I think (classical/widely liked) music or cheap soundproofing should be employed, not just for user satisfaction, but so the line goes faster because people are shy.

    Fully partitioned bathrooms are top tier (and safer/cleaner to my understanding) and I think if they were standard, average quality of life would be higher lol, it's often such an afterthought in design, nothing that important should ever be! I also think people are less likely to intentionally reck a nice restroom.

    So: nice, fully partitioned toilets with like, a floor button/something that you don't have touch with your hands to get out to get to the sink area that has space to spruce up is my current optimal alternative idea for relatively practical public restrooms for buildings that currently have around 5 + female stalls in America. Those would be gender-neutral by nature but some additional, optional, more gender-segregated facilities might be necessary for some people/situations. A small, partially partitioned section for changing clothes would also be great. Disabled people should be able to work with designers in having the final say about the codes for them in this situation.

    If a place has the resources, they should strive for the best bathrooms within reason for the sake of customer satisfaction and straight up morals.

    (note: Most places where I say "I think" There might be specific data to back it up, that I might have but I don't want to mislead you just in case, I'm not gonna double check all my sources for this particular YouTube comment lol and from my experience researching that or similar subjects, it's very likely to be the case, I'm not claiming that the stuff I'm talking about is necessarily a matter of opinion.)

  9. I am fully for gender neutral. Here in Denmark pretty much all washrooms have fully partitioned stalls, and I don't think I've ever seen a stall with a short door as in the US, so that might be why I don't see it as an issue. However there are still ridiculous divisions done here; I was at a restaurant, where the washroom was a wall of sinks, with the three other walls taken up by stalls and while the "sink space" was gender neutral the stall doors were alternatively marked as female and male

  10. Where I live, most restrooms are gender neutral and certainly all are fully partitioned. It always puzzles me when in the US why there are semi-partitioned stalls with quarter-inch thick walls instead of fully partitioned rooms with proper doors and walls. It feels more like Cambodian countryside than first-world.

  11. This is fascinating, I never thought about adult caregivers and their patients. Thanks 💖 Also, I 100% prefer: shared hand-washing areas with fully partitioned gender neutral toilet areas. It cuts down on lines, and has more privacy to make people feel less like they're pooping-with-their-partner.

  12. Personally I don't think so. Have you ever heard of the expression, men worry if women are laughing about them. Women worry if men are going kill them. And no. I don't have any issues at all sharing the space with transgender women, after all, they're women.

  13. As a dude, I couldn’t care less about who shares my bathroom as long as they adhere to the three cardinal rules.
    1. Don’t bother me when I’m trying to poop.
    2. Don’t bother me when I’m trying to pee.
    3. Don’t bother me when I’m washing up after having just peed or pooped.
    So yeah, bring on the gender neutral restrooms. My only concern is that with the new regulations indicating that they are no longer required to provide two separate restrooms, the been-counters will quickly decide that three toilet stalls is more than enough for a floor of 300 office workers.

  14. Gotta' say I think male and female restrooms are there for the safety of the females. It's also why we have separate changing rooms and showers. Put the thinking caps on, folks. Oh, now, guys would never follow a girl into a bathroom, or expose themselves, or make untoward advances. NoOoOoOo. If it's one occupant at a time, fine, no problem. If it's all stalls, there's a security camera outside (no invasion of privacy), and the doors on the stall are secure, etc., OK. This is about safety, not sexism. Don't be dim.

  15. I'm all for non gender bathrooms just as long as its not used as an excuse to build less of them, you kind of had 2 opposing views in this video, that separate areas lead to overcrowding in the women's while the men's might be empty but also having non gender means less costs due to combining the space.

  16. For men who just need to pee, a urinal can be far more convenient than a "sit down toilet".
    So if there are like 20 or more toilets needed anyway, I think a seperate room with (a smaller number of) Urinals only and the rest being (fully seperated) unisex stalls would be the best option.
    If there are only 3 or 4 toilets in total, I guess that doesn't make much sense (from the architect standpoint) though, so there you only get unisex stalls.

    For people who don't like to go to the toilet near anyone from the opposite sex, I'd say they just need to grow up, as hard as that might be.
    Also if all stalls are unisex, you don't get stared at for going there, unlike using the mens bathroom as a woman (or probably worse: the other way round!)…

  17. Are all gender neutral WCs without urinals? There are some genedr neutral WCs at my uni, but we call them unisex WC and they were without urinals, they are from early 2000s.

  18. I've been to two places with fully private stalls: Buc-ee's and Alamo Drafthouse in Mueller (Austin). Buc-ee's is funny in that the private stalls are in the gendered area of the bathroom. Alamo Drafthouse Mueller has a small Men's gendered area with urinals, and then an open area with fully private stalls adjacent to handwashing sinks.

  19. I find this "discussion" to be stupid and dated to the point hilarity. But then I am also from Sweden and dont get why it is a topic at all to start. Please enlighten me…

  20. There are so many other issues with bathroom designs. There's a bathroom in Narita (Tokyo) airport that has unfortunately placed mirrors that give passers-by outside the bathroom a direct view through the doorway of the genitals of men at the urinals. Public urinals also usually have the unfortunate feature of having chromed pipes, meaning you have an omnidirectional mirror facing you during a most private activity. Gender-neutral bathrooms or not (and I'm all for them!), all urinals need dividers.

    Also, there were weird windows into some of the bathrooms (and locker rooms) at my junior high that were accessible to all students. Not sure why.

    I'm fairly tall, so I highly support having multiple levels of sinks if there are multiple. Many places have me stooping awkwardly to wash my hands.

    I have a lot of opinions on public restrooms. Most are horribly designed and I could go on for a long time about them.

  21. For anyone who believes bathrooms separated by gender is somehow a preventative measure against rapists: Sexual assault is illegal. No matter where it happens. Symbols on a door won't stop someone who is already planning to commit a much more severe crime. This pervasive idea that assault would escalate if all bathrooms were universally accessible isn't based on reality, it's not drawn from our understanding of assault, nor our observations of human behavior. You're either complicit in spreading a lie, or maliciously poisoning the well for innocent people who would like to see society progress. Please stop.

  22. When went to the toilet in Schipol airport, in Holland, was extremely surprised and embarassed to see the cleaning lady entering it without any warning while I was at the urinal. Something like that doesn't ever happen in Brazil, where, if the male restroom is going to be cleaned by a female worker, they will first be very sure that the facility is empty and then close it so no more man enters.

    But I agree this is just a prejudice of mine. Gender neutral single restrooms are a lot more efficient.

  23. I don't think the vast majority of people have a problem with parents bringing young children into the opposite sex toilet.

  24. Having visited countries where gender neutral bathrooms are the norm, I like them as there are hardly ever lines. I get frustrated with American toilets having partial partitions and locks that don’t indicate if they are locked or not, and I often wish we would “catch up” in that regard.

  25. You forgot one benefit of having single stalled gendered neutral toilets, the stench of farts and other undesirable scents are isolated.

  26. Really they just need to be cleaner, more efficient porta-pottys.

    I mean each portable restroom has a toilet (obviously) a urinal that feeds into the toilet, toilet paper, baby changing table (depending, but often), and hand sanitizer.

    If you could provide those with actual plumbing, (maybe skip the sink, and put that outside the stall) you would have all private options, in my opinion.

  27. Part of the problem especially in the US is the infamous "stall gap." You should NEVER be able to see into/out of a stall, and they should be tall enough to accommodate very tall folks without risk of seeing over into another stall. The first stall I used that had the cover plates to deal with the stall gap felt like a whole new world.

    Another issue is the cleanliness problem: Some people, usually men, don't feel obligated to do their business cleanly, even though they themselves may have to sit down on a toilet one day, too, as most of us do at some point, and they feel even less obligated to clean up after themselves if they fail to meet these standards.

    Finally, cultural issues: A friend worked in a company in the US that was based in India, and many of the employees moved to the US to do their jobs here. The problem with this is that the women were used to the "hole in the floor" style bathrooms, and so stood on the toilet seats. This resulted in mess and foot prints on the seats, despite signs saying otherwise.

    So while I advocate strongly for gender neutral bathrooms, we HAVE to get better about all these problems too.

  28. I really wish there were more gender neutral washrooms. Not only is that a big queer rights win, but also like you mentioned the lines won’t be so bad anymore.

  29. Just have family bathrooms like most buildings… I already feel uncomfortable with gender neutral change rooms. Men and woman shouldn't be in the same bathroom.

  30. Just put one cubicle in the corner for the uncomfortable. Make the rest efficient!!
    As long as I get my urinal. I suppose gender neutral urinal with screen separators would suffice. But I'd prefer the wall urinals with water flow along the whole face of the wall and open mesh flooring. Usable by all in a pinch.
    Most gender neutral restrooms I've been to do not have urinals, that is unfortunate. When they merge multiple restrooms the result tend to have less toilets in total, while queues are shorter, they now affect all restrooms. You MUST hold it. No choice. Awful design.

  31. I think there should be 3 restrooms option. I personally don't feel safe doing my business around men. I also think it would be awkward seeing a guy using a urinal as I come in. I'm not use to seeing that.

  32. I like the idea of washrooms separated by social/private, rather than gender. That way people providing care and their clients/children can go together, and people that want to chat or do their make-up can go together. While other folks get to have a quite moment without feeling watched or interrupted.

    The reason I don't like going into a washroom with urinals is because it feels so awkward to have somebody doing that right in front of me. It's not about gender or genitals, I just think peeing is a private thing.

  33. I think this issue would be much less contentious in places like the United States if they had toilet stalls which provided ANY reasonable modicum of privacy. It's really silly and weird our toilet stalls don't go down so far, have huge gaps between the doors and the frame, etc.

    I personally would be plenty happy with some properly-private toilet stalls coupled with a communal hand-washing area, AND more "family restrooms" for people with kids, caretakers, really shy bladders, etc.

  34. I have no problem with unisex bathrooms, but I still want to have a space where feminine hygiene stuff can be handled without men. I think a large unisex bathroom that has small gendered bathrooms (with places for washing hands) branching off would be good.

  35. Gender-neutral bathrooms seem to have silently become the standard in newer Danish buildings. I never gave it much thought, and it just seems natural.

  36. It drives me crazy when the men's restrooms don't have changing tables. I'm on diaper duty too. It's not just a mom's responsibility! And, at any rate, gender is a social construct. A bathroom should be a bathroom. No need to complicate things when it can be avoided. Thanks for the great video!

  37. there is a particular toilet in a large mall near my house in northern italy that has: Men, women, boy, girl, and disabled options.

    I think that if you have the space the more options the better. In italy I think that by code you have to provide a disabled option: sometime is a separated gender neutral option, and sometime is the male o female option, or the only option.

    You can easily design a common room with urinals where the stale are close to the door in front of the sink, and the urinals are in the back separated by a wall. It may be a little awkward at first but it works

  38. I don't mind having gender neutral toilets. My issue is how privacy would be handled. Regular toilets in the US are already pretty crap regarding privacy – stalls that leave wide gaps between door and floor, door and ceiling, and between door and wall (I close the door and there's still a visible slit I can see out of). Makes me miss the bathrooms in some parts of Asia where each stall feels like an actual bathroom room and while sound still travels, nobody can see you.

    Regarding urinals, if they have space for a bigger bathroom, a third of it can be for urinals, a third for sinks, and the other third for all the private stalls. Also, don't forget to put one or two folding tables for babies' use. And a bigger stall for handicap use would also be great.

  39. As long as the stall is unoccupied, I really could care less about who's in the stall next to me. That said, I'd have to say that growing up having watched Ally McBeal (side note, first time I've seen a video on gender neutral bathrooms without a mention/clip/image from the show) I guess I expected for there to be a lot more gender neutral toilets out there compared to the reality.

  40. I was paying a bill for one of my kids at the local university SUB (I'm a great dad, eh?) and was somewhat taken aback that the washroom that I would have considered men's was now labelled as "washroom with urinals" and the women's one was "washroom with no urinals". I'm not sure that I'm entirely ready for this, and it took me a minute or two to decide what to do. More private toilet compartments, like in Europe, and better urinal barriers might make a multi-user any-gender washrooms more acceptable.

    I really liked the sign they had for the single user washroom: The pictogram had a man, woman, man/woman, and alien with the words "whatever, just wash your hands".

  41. As a woman (which i am not), wouldn't you feel unsafe in a gender neutral toilet if the only other person in there with you was a man? I would.
    Or by definition gender neutral toilets always accommodate just one person at a time? Sorry if a missed this piece of information

  42. Waiting for lines of women? No thanks.

    For us men, a taking a shit is a sacred task unlike the casual leak that we compensate with expediency for our fellow sitting brothers.

  43. If MtFs want a toilet, use the Women’s; if FtMs want a toilet, use the Men’s. If ‘non-passers’ or others want a private toilet, use the disabled WC room. The notion that Codes need to adapt to suit this vocal minority is nonsensical. All the options are already available.

  44. I'm all for gender neutral toilets. I've used them in various places.

    Although you can't ignore the fact that urinals take up less space, and serve the needs of most male toilet requirements. Maybe there could be a separate room with just urinals, leading back to the washing facilities of course!

    I get that this will annoy some women, as they wouldn't be able to use these and it takes us back to the unfair situation. I don't have an answer to that. But if the urinals weren't there (or were replaced by only one or two more toilets) then the queue would be even longer! Tricky…

    On a separate, but related note… I think there should be two handles on the exit door. One labelled for people who have washed their hands, and the other labelled for those who haven't. I wonder if anyone would use the latter? 😉

  45. "As cis white male, I really don't give a fuuuuuuuuck. Just don't be offended when I push too hard at the urinal and let out a mean fart." – John F. Kennedy

  46. I would love this idea if men's restrooms were typically just as clean as women's. And if this new layout didn't eliminate the opertunity on heterosexual dates, to use the "I need to use the bathroom line" to call a friend when you are in an uncomfortable situation or just want to fix your makeup. But these are small compromises to make, expecially if the saved money goes to cleaning.

  47. the only issue I see with gender natural bathrooms are the that there aren't urinals which allow men to go very quickly. In Australia urinals will literally be a single wall with metal sheet where a substantial number of men can urinate and leave very quickly. I honestly think it would be good to even have like a separate male urinal section just to take pressure of the main toilets.

  48. My sex is male. I love to use urinals. It's really simple and quick and have a high throughput. The vast majority of public bathroom usage is to urinate, which makes them efficient. They are also space efficient, more hygienic(no need to touch anything), easier to maintain, and use less water.
    For people who don't like them, or need to do something else, there should be stalls. And the stalls should have walls that go from the floor to the ceiling. That would really help those who are shy and such.
    If we think about the ultimate toilet, we must consider urinals for women, or possibly, unisex ones. I have never seen one however(although I have rarely been to the female restroom). I have no if people like these at all. But in case they do, then we must consider the usage of these in public areas, considering the advantages.
    I have no experience with gender neutral bathrooms. I have never really noticed one. I have been to the smaller ones of course, but that's because there were no separated toilets because it is a small public building for example. I must also say that public bathrooms in the Netherlands are rare(or I am too stupid to see them). If you are walking around in a city and you need to use the toilet… good luck. It's something that bothers me a lot.
    Great video by the way.

  49. Personally in spaces that are more serious, such as offices, I wouldn't mind gender neutral restrooms. Everybody is behaving themselves (hopefully). But if it is a bar, it might be better to separate the two, so that you dont have guys drunkenly following women into the bathroom when they just want to get rid of some weird ass dude.

  50. At my university, when I started all restrooms were gendered, but by the time I left, all the single-occupancy restrooms (or maybe just all the ones I knew of) had been switched to gender-neutral, and that was definitely a relief when 2 people of the same gender in that area had to use the restroom at the same time.

    The only thing that bothered me about those was that the signs for them said, “Single Use Restroom,” which in my mind should mean, “This restroom can be used only once, then it’s used up and needs to be replaced.”

  51. The bathrooms in my campus are all gender neutral, it has never been a problem to anyone
    Actually last year when there was talk around gender neutral bathrooms in the university we just stood there, not realizing that most other campuses didn't have non gendered bathrooms

  52. We have female and male toilets about hundred years why should we have a third x one? … I think everyone can choose which toilet they want to use 🤷🏻‍♀️

  53. You mistakenly use the term gender when you mean sex at times but other than that this is a pretty good video.

  54. I am for gender neutral bathrooms, but I would call them unisex instead and use WC signs instead of intergender ones

  55. Here’s an advantage to single-stall: it might reduce a bit of pressure on the disabled toilets.

    My son is autistic and, because of sensory sensitivities and high anxiety, can’t go in a regular public men’s room. The hand-dryers go off unpredictably, it hurts his ears, he has a meltdown. He usually has to use the disabled stall, simply because it’s often the only single-stall room available where he won’t have to be afraid of hand-dryers. (And if you’ve never tried to get an autistic kid to go into a place they’re scared of … well, let me tell you. This isn’t faddishness, this is ‘That kid isn’t going in there unless you physically grapple him in there, literally kicking and screaming.’)

    And I don’t apologise for taking him to the disabled stall: autism is a disability. But in single-stall places, I don’t have to worry we’re holding up someone with a physical issue, and I don’t have to deal with all the side-eyes and people telling me, ‘That’s the disabled toilet, you know…’ (Seriously, please son’t force me to explain my son’s neurotype and challenges while he’s standing right there. He just wants to pee without fear; let him have a bit of dignity.)

    So single-stall is also helpful for people with non-physical disabilities, who may not need a handrail but do need extra quiet and privacy.

  56. If someone was charged with sexual harassment for going into the opposite gendered washroom in the past, will their criminal record be cleared and all charges dropped if washrooms become gender-neutral?

  57. Our office has gender-neutral toilets, and it works really well – completely separate from each other as proper "rooms" rather than a partitioned larger space. Personally I think this is how all toilets/restrooms should be!

  58. I really don't understand why I could care about the genders of the people I'm pretending aren't outside my stall.

  59. Never saw any issues with unisex showers and toilets in co-ed dorms. I don't get why gendered toilets exist. It is like the last vestiges of segregation. It gets really difficult as a parent. Not so much when the kids are dependent and you take them and change them etc. But when they get a little older and they need some help but have gone to the opposite gendered toilet to the parent/carer who is with them it gets awkward.

  60. I don't like the person signs that have just been adapted for this. Just draw a toilet, it's more explanatory anyway.

  61. It should be what makes it easier for Non-Binary and Trans people. I would be a little self conscious if I was dropping a huge bomb. But I'm sure I'd go over it, PDQ, if I had to really go.

  62. I think separating the hand wash areas from the toilet areas is the best way forward. Depending on the space, the toilets don't always need to be totally partitioned, and having the hand wash area separate allows for a more efficient number of sinks and also for being more gender neutral. I feel like most people wouldn't have a problem washing their hands next to one another regardless of gender as opposed to using the bathroom.

  63. I'm male and the only thing I care about when doing my "business" is privacy. If gender neutral is more efficient, bring them in!

  64. Most of your reasoning makes perfect sense.
    In terms of efficiency though… I don't think anything comes close to the male urinals in terms of throughput, space and water usage. So that's something that needs to stay in some form if efficiency and water usage is a factor. Additionally, many men will still pee standing up causing the regular toilets to quickly become dirty.

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